Kessler refused 3M $ to fight Bute

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  1. MrMagic

    MrMagic Loyal Member Full Member

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    Hey now, hey now.. lets not forget the big gamble, leaving Bell Centre for Pepsi Coliseum in Quebec City, to fight Librado Andrade. A fight where Andrade contracted a rumoured $400k, after whip-lashing Bute front and center in Bell Centre a year prior to the rematch.
     
  2. Badlok

    Badlok Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Bute never made more then 1,5 million so i don't think there revenue would be this big!

    Before the Magee fight the IBF ask Ibox to pay for the fee before the fight (uselly it was after) and Ibox didn't have the 150k and the fight was almost cancelled till somebody gave Ibox the money! so i don't think there doing so much money!
     
  3. chinachin

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    Wasn't serious all that, just pointed out how he pay-offs might look like. I'm certain of it that if Kessler makes 3m, Bute makes 15m.

    Who the hell is Bute, whom has he beat huh? Either it goes 50% to 50% due to the fact Kessler ain't having the belt yet + the fact Bute won't travel which is a fact.
     
  4. Badlok

    Badlok Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    bute making 15 millions for a fight ? go back to your math class! you failed this one!
     
  5. MrMagic

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    Montreal and Bell Centre is a hotbed for big revenues, UFC set the attendance record there and Bute fills house fighting no-hopers.


    What revenue would you estimate for a Bute-Kessler showdown?
     
  6. Badlok

    Badlok Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Toronto as beaten Montreal for the UFC , they had almost 50 000 peoples!

    Seriously i'm not sure about how much money they could have after the payed for the Bell center location and publicity! but Bute would never make more the 4-5 millions i'm sure! he never made more then 1,5 million with 16 000 peoples , it's not 3-4000 thousands more that will gave him 2 millions more IMO!
     
  7. MrMagic

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    He's filling seats and selling out, don't you think the TV revenue is proper huge aswell?

    The fact is, these guys make way too much money, Kessler did too pre-Calzaghe, and it was his heart that brought him to Cardiff.

    Lucian Bute won't leave for Europe/USA if he can keep making seven figures fighting no-hopers in Montreal, is he?
     
  8. Badlok

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    For the TV revenue i don't think it will be too big! Probably free in the US with Showtime and i don't see more then 25 K paying for it in Canada! 25k x 50$ =1,5 millions $!

    If Bute opponents could bring more peoples then him , Bute would travel but even his opponent prefer to come fighting here for the money! Same go for Pascal! B-hop and Dwason can't draw **** in the US but came to fight in Montréal for the money!
     
  9. chinachin

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    So Bute offers 3m for Kessler and gets 1,5m himself, are you serious bro? :patsch:lol:
     
  10. Badlok

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    You should know who it his! we had 2 differents hating thread son the front ESB page for the last 3 months!
     
  11. Badlok

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    WTF ar you talking about! this is TV revenue ! add the gate plus the 2 millions of showtime and Bute probably get 3-4 millions himslef! anyway why i'm wasting my time with you ?
     
  12. MrMagic

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    Sauerland didn't want the fight in Montreal, they wanted it in Denmark and made a "gracious" offer, still no reply. Why aren't you dogging him for that when you're dogging Kessler for an apparent offer of $3m when the general consensus is believed to have the total revenue at around $10-15m.

    None of this will likely lead anywhere, other than both teams have offered eachother (probably low-balled eachother), knowing InterBox and Sauerland, they're both highly scummy. Sauerland most likely made the counter-offer of exactly the same numbers, and both teams know the fight would make more than $6m, meaning the hometown-advantage will not only have that, but the lions share aswell.

    In all this mess, you have to commend a guy like Arthur Abraham for coming over across the pond to make a name for himself, even in falling short he's lost millions of dollars doing so, he could of taken the Sven Ottke route and sold out in Germany fighting the Gevors of the world, he didn't.

    I think what the people is trying to say here is:

    Kessler fought in Cardiff, in USA and in Australia.
    Froch fought in USA, Denmark and Finland.
    Andre Dirrell fought in Nottingham in his biggest fight.

    The only two people who haven't been deprived of their hometown luxury is Ward and Bute, the big difference is, Ward hasn't been "champion" for four years, my guess is he's likely to fight on neutral turf at the very least, within the four years of his time as champion, whereas BUTE fought four years in the comforts of his home town.
     
  13. laffie

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    We'll need more sources to be sure of the 3 millions. Bute promoter said they never received a counter offer. We don't even know if Showtime would have accepted the fight being held in Europe. If i were them, I wouldn't. Paying 2 millions, I would want it to be live.

    Sauerland has not been clean in these negociations. Kessler's fans could admit it. The super 6 has been disastrous for his boxers and he has taken his good old way of promoting. Don't expect Kessler to have a big fight guys. Kessler's fault is to have left a crooked promoter to go with a worse one.

    No serious opponent will go to Europe when the fight is organized by Sauerland. The guy is not clean. Maybe not as bad as his father but he learned all his tricks...

    If Sauerland really refused 3 millions (and we can expect he had the European TV rights to add to this amount), then Mikkell will look very bad because of the way his promoter handled the situation. Quebec market is not that big and I'm sure can't have much more than that.

    What makes me laugh is you. Still bitching Bute. Still proving that the only thing you're ablw to do is trolling. You are pathetic.
     
  14. MrMagic

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    How about giving a fair hand shake and actually read into my posts for once, instead of going off about me trolling?

    It's not any news that Sauerland is a scummy promotor, likewise with most, including Interbox. The only problem is you dogging Kessler personally, when there are far more viable options and means for him making MONEY.

    Like I've said, everyone knows Bute-Kessler is an extraordinary fight in either Canada or Denmark, and everyone knows it would gross more than $6m.
     
  15. chinachin

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    Surely over 10m imo. Klits are known basically in Germany only, they earn 15m per fight with ease. Go figure.

    Kessler is well known in Europe and USA, has a strong promoter behind him too. Bute is so hyped the fight would be sold shortly after it's announced.