Kessler v Miranda is a good indication of how Kessler would fare vs Pavlik / Taylor

No I'm not comparing them - just showing that Kessler normally has a pretty high workrate...

As for Andrade - he threw 923 punches that night and even if his sights aren't that good - it's still hard work avoiding that many punches. But then again if throwing 923 punches isn't throwing "any" then it's damn hard to be a hardworking boxer...

 

I think you missed my main point. Pavlik went in against Miranda with a relatively high risk fight plan: He was willing to walk through hell to keep Miranda backing up, and to keep landing the right hand. Kessler does not need that kind of approach. All he needs to do is box Miranda's ears off. People may be forgetting that Kelly got his chin checked SEVERAL times against Miranda. Kessler does not need to do that ****. He has a different skill set, and should utilize his skills rather than putting on a raw display of power and heart like Pavlik did.

Boo

 

I thought Calzaghe cruised in that fight. The rounds Kessler won were extremely close. The rounds Calzaghe won were convincing and more one-sided. Kessler fought too cautiously and his demeanor in his corner was very strange. He looked like a defeated fighter.

I realize that Miranda is no Calzaghe. They are completely different types of fighters. I just think that if Kessler tries to use a defensive style against Miranada he will have problems. As far as the Andrade fight with Kessler, Andrade looked like a human punching bag. His counters were slow and late. Granted he fought a brave fight but frankly he looked awful.

 

I disagree on Calzaghe cruising - and on the rounds for Kessler. At least three of "Kessler's" rounds where pretty clear.

As for Kessler in the corner - it had a lot to do with his corner - Richard Olsen always have a tendency to tell his fighter that he is behind to make them fight harder. When Kessler got in trouble in the midrounds he asked for advice and got the brilliant advice: Hit him more and harder...

As for Miranda-Kessler - I think Kessler will be much better of fighting defensively - When Kessler did the best against Calzaghe it was when Calzaghe came at him and as pointed out Calzaghe is levels above Miranda. I think Kessler will be able to keep Miranda away much of the time with his jab and the times where Miranda gets past it he will get sidestepped and countered or caught in close with the uppercut, that caught Calzaghe a few time clean.

Kessler should fight his usual way - no need to change a strategy that is good for a fighter like Miranda.

Andrade did what he does - attack attack attack - he was just overmatched on the night.

 

Well that is pretty much my point, so I didn't miss

I was just reacting to the claim that Pavlik is surpose to have a much higher workrate than Kessler - he doesn't.

But I agree totally on the point that Kessler should NOT do as Pavlik did against Miranda - Kessler should fight his normal style, as it's near perfect for a fighter like Miranda.

 

I don't have too much complaint with what you've said except that I don't think much of Kessler's lateral movement. I think that's what cost him the Calzaghe fight. Like you said his best moments were when Calzaghe attacked. He just could not figure out how to launch an offense against Calzaghe. It all boiled down to waiting and waiting. No wonder his corner kept calling for him to punch more. Although I do agree with you. His corner was atrocious for most part. I've seen better corners in PAL boxing.

I know everyone wants to pile on Miranda because he's an arrogant a-hole and got beaten by a lowly US fighter in Pavlik but the guy is still a huge puncher and Kessler will have to fight differently than he did against Andrade or Calzaghe. There's nothing wrong in that. You can't fight everyone the exact same way.

 

NO, he just wants Kessler to look good so Calzaghe can look better...

Look at his username for Christ sakes, pathetic:roll: :roll: ............

 

And Kessler's two classes above Miranda, being a class above Pavlik and Taylor.

 

No one can possibly tell if a fighter is a class above or below, let alone two classes above or below, another fighter until they've actually fought. This is speculative nonsense. The history of boxing is built on fighters beating other fighters they shouldn't have.

 

Kessler is above average but not elite as Calzaghe proved. Pavlik will land right hands on Kessler at will as Kessler has no clue what head movement even is. Kessler wont beat Miranda easier than Pavlik did and I wouldn't be surprised if Miranda drops him.

 

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U havent seen that much of Kessler have you, sir?

Ill give you the head movement argument but he has good movement and super ring generalship. Heck - even Calzaghe had to change his game plan in order to adapt to Kessler.

Kessler will own the middle of the ring by round one and eat Miranda with jabs, 1-2's and a whole lot of dif. punches. TKO 7 is my prediction.

Pavlik will eat both Kesslers jab and counters all night long and it will be an easy beatdown. Some people underestimate Kessler because of the Calzaghe fight. These people dont understand just how good and freakish Calzaghe is:deal
Kessler TKO 10 Pavlik.

Taylor is just ****ed against Kessler. He doesnt have KO power or any ability that could hurt Kessler. Kessler by late TKO or just a WIDE UD.


Kessler is the real deal. Calzaghe is supernatural.


Koki Kameda.

 

Every time someone says Kessler is something less than supernatural, staunch Kessler supporters start shaking thair heads and claim that people haven't seen enought of him.

I have watched boxing for a long time and have also seen many Kessler fights otherwise I wouldn't even comment. I also know how good Calzaghe is but I also take take into account the opponents that they have faced, which aren't exceptional. Fighters such as Sugar Ray Leonard and Marvin Hagler are exceptional fighters because they proved it time and time again, Kessler is just a solid fighter but nothing more.

 

Well. Dude!

If you have been watching boxing for a long time and you know what to look for - why on earth do you rase the question at all??

Its pretty obvious that Kessler is stylistically and technically a PERFECT euro standup fighter, with alot more to offer than just the style.

:huh

Cant you see talent and gift?

 

First of all - Calzaghe had a very different opening round against Kessler than he had with Bika or Salem.

The only fighters to **** up Calzaghes original style are Reid, Eubank, Bika and Kessler. In every other fight hes been dominating from round one.

 

You Kessler fans need to get off of it, Kessler got dominated in his fight with Cazlaghe and yet you speak as if it was a close contested fight. kessler got his a$$ whipped get over it and move on.