Kessler vs HOF's

Wright and Taylor both have equal or better jabs....was he at the end of them in those fight?

Kessler is too much of a routine fighter....throwing the same combos ALL too much. Hopkins has UNBELIEVABLE TIMING and accuracy. He will counter Kessler all night.

Plus, Bernard is arguably the best defensive fighter out there (you could argue Floyd, but noone else at this point), how can ANYONE say a jab would keep him at bay?

Doesnt make much sense.

Kessler is a good fighter, but he is not on Hopkins level....or Joe's for that matter.

 

Yes, of course. An old Hopkins, whose workrate is on par with an old lady can beat prime Kessler. Get real. It will work vs other way-past prime people or smaller guys.

 

Kessler's jab is faster, harder and more accurate than both Taylor and Wright.

Hopkins is a great defensive fighter, but he is also lazy - Kessler's workrate alone will take him far towards a victory.

But let's leave it here - until the discussion gets some relevans. As in a actual fight is made.

 

sometime soon your opinion will change.
how many rounds did kessler loose in 39 fights? was it 3? or 4? thats outstanding yea?. and how many clean knockouts compared to calzaghe ? search for yourself. kessler is in a league of hes own and future p4p 1 :shock:

 

I don't hold greats on a pedastool, they can all be beaten and I was judging from styles and intangibles only, which is how I always pick fights to begin with.

The first 1 in Hagler is subject to argument, but I feel Hagler vastly overrated and on the end of the jab all night. The 2nd two at 168 were too small to do a damn thing.

Eubank presents intangibles that could get him a win.

 

you must be very young & stupid lol

 

It's literally a fight that can go either way.

 

No, of course not - nor would I want you to hold them on a pedistool.

Well can't say that Hagler is overrated, he is my all-time fave, and he is there for a reason. His first round war with Hearns was amazing, tall, lanky and dangerous as Hearns was, Hagler crept under his arms and fired bombs. If you think that JCs inside game will be too much for Kessler then Haglers definately would be.

Same with SRL just in the speed department. Young SRL hands were faster than JCs. So if it spells trouble for Kessler then SRLs would also. He could mix it up, and alter his game plan if things didn't work.

Versus Hearns, Kessler would need to brawl with him, and we don't know how well Kessler does that.

Then again, we don't know the true power of Kessler yet - we shall see in the future - which also includes past 3rd of November.

 

Hmm, you really feel Kessler beats a prime Hopkins? He'd have trouble getting past the Hopkins that exists today. Probably would be a standoff like Hopkins - Taylor if anything. A prime Hopkins does some vicious roughing up of Kessler and ruthless body work. Kessler doesn't have much of a chance, as I see it, with his one-two style.

 

I just read your post. I definitely agree that Kessler is far too predictable for Hopkins. Hopkins will see Kessler's offense coming before Kessler thinks to throw. Kessler doesn't win this one.

Hagler, however, I can see Kessler beating him, especially since it would be above Hagler's prime weight.

 

We have never seen Hagler at 168, so there is no telling how he would do, but I just have a feeling that he would be able to get inside, work the body, and rough him up a little to win a decision or maybe a late TKO - depending on Kessler's chin. Who knows...Just my 2 cents though:good

 

Why come on a forum if not to debate? To agree?

If nothing else, don't respond to mythical match-up threads.

 

No, I see where you're coming from. I also know we haven't seen Hagler at 168lbs, but I would imagine he would be less able to bully people and push them around at higher weights. Also, his stamina, I would guess, would also be worse. Kessler is too big for a smaller Hagler to push around, and I see Hagler eating a lot of leather in this one.

 

When has Hopkins ever sat at the end of a jab and been tagged all night long? Pathetic.

 

We're talking about a prime Hopkins, moron. The Hopkins that fought Wright was... I believe 42? Even more pathetic.