Kessler vs HOF's

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by yesihavearm, Aug 28, 2007.


  1. Astola

    Astola Its a fact. Full Member

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    Joe isnt flash gordon and Kessler is no turtle.

    We simply dont agree on how the fight will progress...

    And I strongly disagree with your argument that there are some things you just dont do. You do whatever necessary to win.

    If this includes preparing to the other fighters gameplan - then you certainly do so.

    Styles makes fights - but as we concluded earlier there are more to styles than just the stance.
     
  2. Astola

    Astola Its a fact. Full Member

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    The answers are easy.
    No
    No
    No
    No
    No


    But dude - youre a journalist. U should always check the quality of your questions - You have to see it from both sides in order to be respected.

    I can ask you 5 and more spun questions as well. Not my style.

    All I know is that this fight is close. Both are extremely good at what they do, and Calzaghe will face a fighter who is better than he is - on the oustide! If Kessler can keep Joe on the outside it will be close.

    This makes the fight as different as can be, compared to the Lacy fight.
     
  3. Astola

    Astola Its a fact. Full Member

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    First of all, Kessler is intelligent and come fightnight he will have a good gameplan.

    Second. Kessler is one of the fighters in my time who has impressed the most regarding judging distance. Its truly insane too watch and one of the reasons he hasnt lost more than app. 10 rounds in his career.

    Third. Kessler is extremely accurate. His punches will hit the chin. Nothin remotely wild about Kessler.

    Fourth. Kessler is bringing the same height into the ring as Joe.
    Joe wont be able to dominate with his height/reach advantage.

    Fifth. Kessler is the strongest fighter Joe has ever faced. While Joe is insane on the inside, you have too admit that hes fighting very dirty in there, grabbing people by the neck is a solid example. My bet is that he wont be able to do this against Kessler, because Kessler will move and push himself out of there....

    I can just as easily as your predictions see Kessler catch Joe on the distance (while Joe is trying to get in to setup something.)
     
  4. Astola

    Astola Its a fact. Full Member

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    Oh Jesus. You continue the spin dude.

    #1, #2 and #4 are allright questions though, so Ill answer these.

    #1. Yes he has faced an orthodox fighter before, although I doubt he has face an ambidextrous, orthodox fighter before with the height, reach and strenghts of Kessler.
    But stylewise from a stance point of view. Yes. Considering Kesslers style. No.

    #2. Yes I believe he might be just the one to defeat Joe.

    #4. Yes I believe so and here is why. Kessler will be hitting Joe more frequently and cleanly than any other opponent ever did. This is one of the reasons. Another one is that MK has very good workrate and stamina. Kessler might need a break in the 9th round but otherwise they are pretty close. Watch 11/12 of the Andrade fight (and dont say Andrade was pure ****.).
     
  5. Astola

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    Mitchel lis the only one i would say is stronger than Kessler. A prime Eubank is as well. But not the one Joe faced. Bika is not near Kessler strenghtwise. Bika is just dirty.

    Im bringing up the left hook as the perfect example on how I think Kessler will go into this fight; Stay outside as if your life was at stake - and throw combinations whenever you have the chance. This includes the left hook...
     
  6. DanePugilist

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    :lol: :lol: :lol: Spot on.
     
  7. DanePugilist

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    Blocky, as I see it you are overrating every aspect of Joe's assets.

    1) South paw stance. While its true that it more difficult facing south paws than not, these are not amateurs. They have trained and faced many such fighter in both amateurs and to some extent in pros.

    2) Speed. While JC does have fast feet and hands, they are not out of this world, nor so much faster than Kesslers. As seen from evidence, JC carries very little power in his hands, and needs accumulation to make an impact. This will go well versus much slower opponents, and people willing to trade with him.

    What JC does have that would bring more problems for Kessler is his all angled attacks that has incredible precision, and it is difficult for anyone to defend against.
     
  8. Astola

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    #1. U dont prove any point at all comparing Veit to Kessler. Its like comparing Calzaghe to Soliman.

    #2. Well go ahead and loose your respect. The jab will work as distraction because its as good/precise as it is. But he will clearly use his right alot on the night. I sum up to "combos" because it will be all sorts of punches from the outside.

    #4. I cant name a fighter Kessler has faced with the same qualities as Joe. So no. But I can say that if Joe got hit by other poorer opponents he will be hit more by Kessler.

    Andrade kept coming for full 12 rounds. You NEED very good workrate to constantly land combinations on the titanium head untill the final bell.
     
  9. DanePugilist

    DanePugilist God vs God - Death Angel Full Member

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    Nuff said really.
     
  10. DanePugilist

    DanePugilist God vs God - Death Angel Full Member

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    I am somewhat glad you can't be arsed with me, because your reading comprehension is similar to a ****-eyed rhino.
     
  11. DanePugilist

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    :lol: . Don't forget the vast evidence of Kesslers skills coming from clips, and Calzaghes skills through eyes of distortion.
     
  12. DanePugilist

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    :lol: :lol: - That must be it. I guess that JC doesn't whisper the truth into Blockys ears: "Kessler is a class act, and I have to be at my very best to beat him".
     
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    :lol: :lol: :lol: Post of the year!:deal
     
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