Kessler vs Pavlik Who wins?

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  1. tays001

    tays001 ESB ELITE SQUAD Full Member

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    yeah i don't think he's to bright :good
     
  2. safe_pa

    safe_pa Howlin' Mad Full Member

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    Today has been a rough day and although this message wasn't meant for me it has put a smile on my face. I can't wait to see Pavlik destroy the Latin Fake.
     
  3. itrymariti

    itrymariti CaƱas! Full Member

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    Obviously tactics are important, but I think Pavlik was out of the ring that night. Whether it was Hopkins' brilliance, Pavlik's inherent vulnerability to counter-punchers, bronchitis or whatever (I don't want to debate that) Pavlik was just out of it. He said it himself: "It just didn't feel like me in there." As I said before, it wasn't a few bits of technique that made B-Hop win. He was just superior on every level, and Pavlik looked lethargic and disinterested. Why do you think, after 8 rounds, Pavlik said "I'm trying!" and Loew replied "I know, kid."? It just wasn't Pavlik's night, for whatever reason. I don't see that as evidence that he's oblivious to tactics.

    I wasn't implying any sort of equivalence between the likes of Zertuche and Calzaghe; that would obviously be insane. I was just responding to claims like "Pavlik has no power" "Pavlik has no endurance" etc.

    I'm not saying Joe's a bad fighter. I'm not saying he's one-dimensional. The fact is, though, that all fighters have styles, and Calzaghe's is to come forward, throw flurries and combinations, be aggressive and outwork his opponents. I just see Pavlik as a nightmare, style-wise, for Calzaghe. If Pavlik comes out all-guns-blazing, Calzaghe wouldn't be able to walk forward like he normally does. He'd have to employ a lot more defence and avoid the bombs that Pavlik throws. As I've said before, Pavlik dismantles pressure fighters, and Joe is a pressure fighter. That's not a derogation or an insult; it's just a fact.
     
  4. tommyboa78

    tommyboa78 Member Full Member

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    this is one of those fights that all the boxing fans want to see, but the promoters never match and the tv channels never talk about. But if it did. Kessler for me but it would be bombs away from both men. Both of them dont know how to work the body and hit hard and straight. A boxing fans dream. what a shame promoters are such greedy f***kers.
     
  5. lolb

    lolb Active Member Full Member

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    Kessler by ko, Pavlik is not that good.
     
  6. the prom queen

    the prom queen bitter and clinging Full Member

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    I guess one could call pav one dimensional, but to say he's "not that good" is like what. the.****???????????????????????????????
     
  7. tays001

    tays001 ESB ELITE SQUAD Full Member

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    Joe doesn't always just come foward and if anything Joe also eats up pressure fighters like KP. sorry but his jab jab right hand straight movement foward would get him eaten up . and sorry to say joe apllys a different type of pressure then miranda,zuniga,zertuche, ect does. all you have do islook at his fight and there is a clear difference.

    it's like comparing the french military to the USA Military.:blood
     
  8. tays001

    tays001 ESB ELITE SQUAD Full Member

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    Kessler by ko? explain:good


    Pavlik is not that good ? how did you come to this conclusion and have you seen more then 3 of his fights?
     
  9. Mr T.

    Mr T. Member Full Member

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    Kessler is the bigger man and would easily dominate Pavlik who is ok but nought special. You have to bear in mind kessler is the bigger man and will trouble him. Look what hopkins did to him. Hopkins used to be a middleweight.
     
  10. booradley

    booradley Mean People Kick Ass! Full Member

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    Ya, and we all know that Hopkins and Kessler are exactly alike:patsch
     
  11. pipe wrenched

    pipe wrenched ESB ELITE SQUAD Full Member

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    This place is goin' to ****, Boo...

    I don't know WTF some of these dudes are smokin' these days, but it has to be some GOOD ****, and a hell of a lot more potent than what I could get in High School...:yep
     
  12. tays001

    tays001 ESB ELITE SQUAD Full Member

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    hey pipe long time no see . alot of these poster just type **** after on;y seeing 1 or 2 fights and then some bring up irrelevent fight. it just your standard wave of wave of buffoons! you have to remeber the same poster that type stupid **** would probally try to cook a hot pocket on a george foreman grill instead of the microwave :-(
     
  13. tays001

    tays001 ESB ELITE SQUAD Full Member

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    hey by the way you ever here of this FInito guy .

    i was thinking we may just have to do and old school ESB elite Squad Mollywhop just to spark some fun:yep
     
  14. booradley

    booradley Mean People Kick Ass! Full Member

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    Want to shut Finito down? Just type the name Emmet Linton. Dude whipped Green's ass and got robbed in Oklahoma City. Shuts Finito right up:yep
     
  15. booradley

    booradley Mean People Kick Ass! Full Member

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    You know me Pipe -- I love a good poster war -- but damn -- some of these noobs on here over the past year are beyond ridiculous.