kettlebells??? how good at they for a fighter

And swings are bad for movement. The triple extension is fundamental to most athletic movements, the proximal to distal sequencing is what generates power. Locking the hips and knees together is going against that, do it enough and you mess up movement. I don't understand why that's such a controversial statement for people here.

 

If you don't have the best shoulder mechanics I can see how swings could help with dynamic scapular stability. And you found they helped you so that's good, I'd say that's a fairly unique way to work on that particular problem. If you can find uses for them without messing with the fundamentals of movement too much then great.

 

The same results you get from any form of weight training, feel stronger, getting stronger as can use heavier kettlbells and adding the cardio involved in some of the excersizes also improving stamina.

 

Soft knees, maybe you arent doing the swing right! :good

 

Ah ok and if the distribution of weight in a kettlebell makes it unstable it will take a stronger core to ensure correct form of exercises?

 

I understand people having issues with certain exercises, whether they involve kettlebells or not. But to come out and say kettlebells, or for that matter any kind of weights, are basically useless is ridiculous.

What if you don't have access to an olympic weightlifting facility? What if you prefer to workout at the beach rather than join a gym? Is lifting heavy rocks, sandbags, tree trunks etc 'bad for movement' too?

There may be more effective ways to train than with kettlebells, but you work with what you have, and you can do a hell of a lot with very little (or nothing).

This anti-kettlebell thing baffles me. They're lumps of weight, either use 'em or don't, what's the big deal?

 

I dont see the big deal either, problem is dealt-with responded in such a negative way it prompted additional comments.

I dont care anyway I'll carry on using them and TRX I can see how they benefit me.

 

When u can clean 225+ how can 50lb kettle bells be of much use? Fine for accessory work but if you're doing cleans already I don't see the need for them.

 

From a purely strength / PL perspective yes, but what about muscular endurance, conditioning...

For GPP (and even bodybuilding) lighter more manageable weights have their place.

 

:good

 

This thread is really dragging on.

The issue here is that everyone is arguing over different things. You have guys that like to use kettlebells for whatever reason arguing with a guy that trains athletes as a profession. Of course views will differ.

I think DW's pretty much saying "Kettlebells are only useful if you're a *****" is a bit OTT, but that's from the standpoint of someone who trains very strong athletes. You live in that world, it changes how you view things, same as a power lifter would think a guy struggling to bench 300lbs is a *****.

I do 100% agree with him on one point though, if your goal is strength (absolute strength), kettlebells are not the way to go.

 

Power clean with lighter more managable weight then. My gripe with bells is cost and scaling. A 300lb. Barbell Set is $200 and can easily be scaled within 5lbs. From 45-300lbs.

 

I can see how kettlebells are of limited use IF you take the view that boxers should only train with weights for strength, and let their boxing drills, sparring etc take care of conditioning.

Not all boxers train the same though. I doubt BHop hits the heavy weights, for example.

There is a place for everything when it comes to training IMHO. The joy of life is that we're all different and not everyone follows the exact same path.

 

No gripe here with barbells. :good

 

Its all relevant...for most of us non professional athletes they will help to get stronger, fitter and healthier and they also have a place for professional athletes...how heavy you are lifting or what you are doing depends on each individual.

Kettlebell training will get you stronger and fitter.