Keys to beating Wlad.

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  1. VG_Addict

    VG_Addict Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    What would you say are the keys to having success against Wlad?

    I think you need a good inside game.
     
  2. Lady Girl

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  3. BCS8

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    Disagree with the OP. Wlad kills an inside game so quickly with his Dr Octopus routine.

    What you need is above all speed, power, and accuracy. You need a decent chin, and the guts to take some to land some. I also don't see a short stumpy fighter beating him. You need to be a tall rangy guy with a good wingspan. You have to be a good finisher, because he seems to recover quickly enough.

    To beat Wlad you have to get inside his jab and hurt him, and then once you have him hurt, put him on the back foot and finish him off. Easier said than done.

    Not a lot of guys fit the bill. Lennox, Vitali, Sanders ... nobody else in the modern game really comes to mind. Wilder has the dimensions but I think Wlad totally outskills him. Fury ... I don't think has the power nor the technique.
     
  4. HerolGee

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    lol Sanders, retired failure from lewis era who instantly wipes out wlad, he fits the bill, but all the guys above Sander's failed fringe contender level don't....welcome to planet kliturd.
     
  5. Robney

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    BCS kinda hit the nail on the head.

    I was always baffled when some people here believed you could take him out with a single well timed punch, certainly during the Haype years. How on earth can you get that idea from Wlad's previous fights/defeats? He always made it back to his feet when down, no matter who landed it or what they hit him with. You have to keep coming at him and be daring and able to take what's coming back at you to finish him off.
     
  6. BCS8

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    Awesome ana lysis Herol, you always bring that extra intellectual angle to a discussion :-(

    Robney, I think we are on the same page. A single shot isn't going to do the job; the guy to beat Wlad needs to be able to string together a sustained attack.
     
  7. HerolGee

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    how is what actually happened, an a.nalysis?

    what actually happened is fact, get with it.
     
  8. Gannicus

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    Being Joe Frazier.
     
  9. Robney

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    maybe, but he probably would walk right into Wlad's straight right.
     
  10. Brixton Bomber

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    1) You need to have a great chin, that's a given.

    Wlad has some of the greatest punches in Heavyweight history in his ****nal: Jab, Straight Right, Left Hook (he might have the most underrated punch in Boxing).

    So to take ANY of those you MUST have great whiskers.

    2) Head movement. And lots of it.

    Haye has got the best head movement at HW. Wlad still found the spot. So you need ELITE LEVEL head movement.

    3) Guts. And lots of them.

    You need to be willing to take three to land one. Not the wisest idea, but if you've got a chin then it might be. You also need to put the idea of you facing one of the greatest HW's in history to the side.

    4) Having Plan's A, B & C.

    Wlad is great at nullifying what you do. So you need to have back up plans. And lots of them.

    5) A high punch-output.

    Look at who troubles Wlad, and then look at the same person when Wlad reduces that persons output - they crumble.

    Wlad HATES pressure - hence the hugging - so a HW with a 50-75 punch output per round will trouble him.

    Hope that helps! :good
     
  11. Tolak80

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    you know Sanders was more active then Lewis during that time period so quit the retired BS
     
  12. BCS8

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    Herol has an agenda ... he tagteams with Dino on the Klitschko hate train. :roll: If somebody said that Wlad could make a good cup of coffee, these two would be all over him. By the time they had finished, that cup of coffee would be the equivalent of poo stirred into warm water with salt added. :nut

    I'm actually not a great fan of Wlad's style, believe it or not. It makes for ugly boxing. But it IS very effective, and that nobody can deny.

    Except for HerolDino, that is. :-(
     
  13. KO KIDD

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    Well let's have a look at his 3 losses

    Purrity, very early in his career was ahead, wore down late wilted and stopped

    Sanders, fast handed southpaw with power caught him very early never relented Wlad never recovered over very fast

    Brewster took a savage beating for 4 rounds or so, Wlad punched himself out and collapsed

    All Wlads losses were from over 10 years ago, 2 from fatigue one from and early blitzing. Peter had some dangerous moments and other than Wach landing a bomb and Haye landing a bomb he's been thoroughly dominant

    I feel like to beat Wlad you almost have to fight him with disregard for his power, Brewster was able to press on and force a pace Wlad couldn't maintain, Peter did that in spurts, Sanders just came in throwing

    It's a dangerous easier said than done plan but to beat Wlad you have to make him fight at a torrid pace which is something his style really does everything in it's power to negate

    Also opening up and boring in makes you vulnerable to punches and clinches

    No one has had sustained success vs Wlad name a fight where he lost more than 3 rounds, possibly just the Peter fight

    There isn't really a blue print there

    Best bet is to surprise him early before he establishes his range and jab or force a fight take a beating but maybe wear him down
     
  14. HerolGee

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    no I don't, but in the eyes of a kliturd I can see how you can put 2 and 2 together and get 5 like that.

    You find it as easy to not notice my supportive posts for wlad as you do to not notice the facts about wlad getting destroyed instantly by guys as fringe as sanders.
     
  15. HerolGee

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    sanders was a semiretired golfer by then.
    and both half-tank lewis and fully almost faded sanders retired for good after one more fight at about the same age, so you can quit trying to pass off your BS over my facts.

    how you must wish that Wlad hadnt ignored shot Sanders with such vehemence.