Khan-Bradley on the horizon

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  1. scurlaruntings

    scurlaruntings ESB 2002 Club Full Member

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    O yes of course because an argument based on moot conjecture and a whole load of subjective bull**** makes a whole lot of sense doesnt it? Tell you what i think Paulie Malignaggi might be an ATG some day... Idiot.
     
  2. KCD

    KCD All aboard. Full Member

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    If this fight happened tomorrow or in a years time (if either are still champ), i cant see how Khan can keep Bradley off him long enough to any damage, personally i dont think Khan has the power to gain Bradley's respect and i dont think he has the physical strength to keep Bradley off him or stop him from man handling him.

    I could envision Khan winning the first 2 rounds but then Bradley start to break him down and stop him in rounds 5-7.

    And as for the guy who said Khan will drop him more than Holt, from what evidence do you come to this conclusion?

    Khan wasnt a massive puncher at 135 against blown up super feathers so i cant see him hurting probably the most robust champ at 140.
     
  3. Mr. V.I.P.

    Mr. V.I.P. Boxing Addict banned

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    Bradley walks through Khans shots and stops him very early.
     
  4. dan-b

    dan-b Boxing Junkie banned

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    Some of you lot are seriously underestimating Bradley or paying too much credence to Khan's defeat of Kotelnik. If this happens, I would have to say fair play to Khan and Warren for making such a tough fight. Khan would definitely get knocked out in this one though. If he made it to the late rounds he'd be doing well.

    Bradley has now proven himself to be a well accomplished, tough, durable 140 fighter who would take Khan to places he'd never been before. Khan's arm punches would not deter Bradley who would be in close throwing sharp, accurate punches all night.

    Khan's footwork, in the early rounds, would create illusion he could compete with this guy but he'll be overwhelmed by the better fighter by the half way mark.
     
  5. Raashid

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    Hopkins was 27 when he first fought for a world titel against Jones Jr. - and was slated in The Ring magazine for his gun-shy performance. It took years of routine defences at middleweight before he was considered good by which time he was approaching 40. A young Hopkins isn't a good indicator of future greatness.
     
  6. Tony Bellew

    Tony Bellew Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Some good points there, However I feel Hopkins was just unlucky running into someone of the claibre of a young and prime Roy Jones Jr, I feel Hopkins has improved with time as you indicate in your post, He's also done it the hard way too, His hard work is just starting to pay off BUT could it all have come too late?? The fight with Adamek is looming now too..


    As for Amir, I think the fight with him and Amir is easy made and could be a money spinner in the states or even over here.. Both are quite well known an I feel Amir has blown up over the last say 6 months..
     
  7. scurlaruntings

    scurlaruntings ESB 2002 Club Full Member

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    Its not even that. First and foremost Bradley fights nothing like Hopkins. Furthermore if you look at his competition -although he is doing things the correct way- he was a relative unknown prior to Witter, and the only names on his ledger are Campbell and Holt. Now Bradley is defintly one to watch and has unified a belt but he's nothing close to even being a future ATG. How on earth he can see that i dont know.
     
  8. scurlaruntings

    scurlaruntings ESB 2002 Club Full Member

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    Hopkins wasnt unlucky at all. He was fighting a young and incredibly talented RJJ. Hopkins has never been able to deal with faster counter punchers than himself. Every time Hop tried to get off Jones would land two punches for his every one. And Jones fought that fight with one hand! He was simply too fast and too good at the time for Hop. Additionally theres zero comparison between Hopkins and Tim. Plus Hopkins evolved immensely as a fighter over the years.
     
  9. mcguirpa

    mcguirpa Well-Known Member Full Member

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    How is saying he's good and likely to get better moot conjecture? And what's subjective about using the guys record and past performances as evidence? and comparisons with other fighters as a yardstick? You do know the difference between objective and subjective, don't you?

    You can say Mallignaggi is a future ATG, his record already suggests otherwise though, doesn't it? Bradley's doesn't.

    I disagree. When Hopkins was at a similar stage to where Bradley is now he was a well rounded fighter who did nothing outstanding, then evolved - as you say. The tools were obviously there though. As they are with Bradley.

    You talk like I'm saying Bradley is a nailed on future ATG. I'm not, at all. Only that his record up to press suggests the potential is there and he has obvious skills to develop.
     
  10. scurlaruntings

    scurlaruntings ESB 2002 Club Full Member

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    You're post is not objective. Either way Bradley doesnt have a resume that even resembles anything close to even being construed as an ATG. Number mean nothing. Bradley has potential but i think you're getting way to carried away.
     
  11. mcguirpa

    mcguirpa Well-Known Member Full Member

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    How is it not objective? I just don't get where you're coming from. So far you've backed your words up with nothing just content to tell me I'm wrong without a hint of a reason. Hey ho, I guess you must just know best eh?

    Righto. Now all you need to do is point out where I said he did. Ta.

    OK. It's a step on from:

    Glad you;re coming round to my way of thinking:good
     
  12. TFFP

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    The point is its pointless to be talking about a guy being an ATG that is not even in the realms of achieving that. I mean nowhere close.

    And no, you can't really derive the idea he has the potential to do it from the wins over the fighters he has.

    He has the same 'potential' to do it as many fighters that make a good start to their career. Juan Diaz was considered a beast not long ago, things can change.
     
  13. mcguirpa

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    Pointless why? Cause you don't want to talk about it? Am I not allowed an opinion now on what the future might hold for a fighter?:-(

    On your point about his record to date, I disagree. And it's not just about who he's beat, but how he's beat them.

    I take your point about Juan Diaz, but I'll refer you to what I said earlier. Nowhere am I saying this is set in stone, a racing certainty, I have never said Bradley is certain to go down in the history books as an all time top 10 P4P fighter. Of course it can change, that's the thing about the future, isn't it? You just never can tell.

    But to dismiss his chances of been an ATG out of hand now is IMO dumber than saying 'I think this guy looks really good, I think come the end of his career we might look back and say he was one of the best'.
     
  14. DemolitionDan

    DemolitionDan ATG and HoF Full Member

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    I would take Bradley, Khan would try to use his speed and quickness on the outside, but Bradley is very quick himself and would cut down the ring and make Khan fight on the inside. Also, Khan doesn't hit had enough for Bradley to feel his power. I see Bradley stopping him within 10....if this fight happens, but I doubt it.
     
  15. GazOC

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    Bradley potentially an ATG? Pure muppetry.....