khan is one of them fighters who can't do nothing right.

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by boxingscience, May 17, 2010.


  1. Govanmauler

    Govanmauler Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Indeed and Ricky got plenty of stick for his opponenets , wasnt anything like as famous as Khan was at this age and lets be honest was a guy with average power , average speed , not great defence , not great anyhting so he had to achieve simply through determination, people like that.
     
  2. boxingscience

    boxingscience Boxing Addict Full Member

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    they're examples of fighters who got respect, and others who didn't. once upon a time there would of been a time where you would of got ridiculed for mentioning ali (clay) in the same sentence such as joe louis. not no more. khan is 23, who knows what he can achieve. i don't think he's got the chin to go all the way, but you never know. once upon a time ali had a weak chin, or so the boxing experts thought.
     
  3. boxingscience

    boxingscience Boxing Addict Full Member

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    ricky did well with the fans because he promoted himself as one of the lads, and it sold well. it seems people are getting confused with financial success with fan success. both different. khan got the exposure like leonard, oscar did, that's why he's got the money.
     
  4. Irelandsthebest

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    I know but then come on....he really has not proved at all by his level of opposition that he in any way has a future that will be compared to thse guys. Its just the media makin a name for him.....those other guys made a name for themselves i the ring.
     
  5. boxingscience

    boxingscience Boxing Addict Full Member

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    hatton didn't win a medal, but he still had the same promoter, the same backer as khan, the only difference is khan did better in the amateurs, which financially made him more rewarding. it's normally the promoters is where boxers have trouble with when starting out at the bottom, not hatton.
     
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  7. Govanmauler

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    My point was that Khan is a supreme athlete and boxer with one weakness but by avoiding all fighters who could expose that weakness ( or hopefully make him have to adjust and show something else ) he is almost garaunteeing victory for himslef.

    Hatton had pishy defence but he still had to fight a few snipers and counter punchers even on the way up.

    Its not fair that if you are blessed with all these talents that you make your one weakness irrelevant by not ever fighting guys who are dangerous to you.

    Ali didnt do great with inside pressure fighters , should he have just ignored Joe Frazier ?

    Frazier was bad against uppercuts and tall guys , he should just have forgotten Foremans name ?

    recently Froch cant handle speed all that well , I guess he should have avoided Pascal , Taylor , Dirrell ????

    thats what khan is doing !

    He has the gifts to be an All time guy but he has to fight dudes that dont suit him to get the respect he wants !
     
  8. boxingscience

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    khan's 23, so he has alot of time to make a name for himself in the actual pro ring, but it won't matter because he'll still get more stick than say hatton would of done. like i said, some boxers are a huge success with fans, and i named them, and then you get others who have to do that bit more to get that same respect. it happens through out the history of the sport. fans pick and choose who they like.
     
  9. boxingscience

    boxingscience Boxing Addict Full Member

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    i understand that, but khan can't run and hide forever. he already has mention he wants to fight maidana, now you got some topics up saying maidana is nothing who lost to kotelnik, while before khan mentioned him, that's the guy most mentioned. khan will fight the big punchers, he has to. maybe he'll get knocked out again, maybe not. it's one of those things of will speed bail him out, or will he get caught?
     
  10. PATSYS

    PATSYS Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Unlike Ali, the fighters you listed did not dodge draft and did not stir some racist **** and as such not as controversial.
     
  11. Govanmauler

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    True, he will have to eventually. I've had this thing going on with my Kahn fan status since the early days. I let it go that on the way up when he fought a whos who of guys with low KOs , some of these dudes you have to wonder where Warren was digging them up , Three of them with no KOs , 3 !

    but fair enough he was developing but he is now billed as , refered to as and has a shiny belt that says : World Champion. There are greater expectations now. He HAS to fight guys who can be a danger to him. I actaully think that under Roachs tutelage and at the higher wieght he can beat the big name Americans but even if he doesn't first time round I'll have mopre respect for him for having put himself in a place where he doesn't know before hand that he's going to win :good
     
  12. Govanmauler

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    There is one other point , brawler and sluggers are generally speaking more popular.

    Tyson will always be more popular than Lewis

    Dempsey will always be more popular than Tunney

    Pac is more popular ( world wide ) than May

    Guys that tear in and ko people are always quicker to be taken to peoples hearts. In that sense Ali was actually more popular than maybe he would have been without his bombastic personality
     
  13. boxingscience

    boxingscience Boxing Addict Full Member

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    i agree. this topic wasn't made from a khan nuthugger because trust me i'm far from that. this topic was made because you see a pattern in boxing when it comes to fanbase where some are loved, some are not as loved, even though they turned out to be just as good, if not better. some took the topic the wrong way and went full steam ahead, but to be honest those sort of comments only proved my point.
     
  14. boxingscience

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    you've seen the pattern. that was actually the pattern i was getting at, but didn't want to say it. you only get the odd situation with the likes of ali and oscar that was different and theirs wasn't totally for boxing reasons. brawlers are more respected than boxers like holmes, wladimir, mayweather, khan, and so on until retirement, and that's when it's guys like holmes, mayweather that tend to get more respect.
     
  15. Govanmauler

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    I get you and you do have a point I cant decide if the majority of the Khan hate on here is because he is British or because he is Asian but is deffo one of them for a lot of people. But there are a chunk , who like I do admire his abilities but just want to see him tested occsaionaly !