Khan is scared of Bradley and Maidana

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  1. anthbrown

    anthbrown Active Member Full Member

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    im just thinking that if he had of won that fight then there would have been a lot of demand for them 2 to meet and it would have been a nice set up for a rematch

    just my opinion of course
     
  2. Uncle Rico

    Uncle Rico Loyal Member Full Member

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    In case you haven't noticed, I'm not a Khan nut hugger who believes he's the next best thing. I actually see Khan as still a prospect, that's seen his career accelerated in the past 12 months. I don't think he should even be holding a belt yet, as I doubt his ability to comfortably take on all mandatory challengers (as a champion should).

    Like I've said in my previous post, if Khan fights the following tomorrow...

    - JMM
    - Maidana
    - Paulie
    - Zab

    ... I think he would struggle.
     
  3. Toontoon

    Toontoon Boxing Junkie banned

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    More like they don't want to see him avoid anyone, if Khan got in with Maidana then he would receive plenty of praise if he out boxed him for 12 rounds while managing to avoid one of Maidana's big shots.

    You seem to see a World champion that won't get in with big punchers in fear of getting knocked out as someone we should all get behind and support and if we don't support such a protected career then we must be idiots.
     
  4. Toontoon

    Toontoon Boxing Junkie banned

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    The casual fan see being the World champion as being the best in that division, people who know a bit more about the sport know this isn't the case so to claim he would never be a World champion is pushing it a bit.

    Khan's problem when it comes to the general fans is that unlike Hamed, Hatton, Calzaghe etc he hasn't looked unbeatable fighting bums in the early part of his career, in fact he's struggled at times against them which isn't what you expect from someone who is being hyped as the next big thing.

    Some people won't ever like him of course the same as some people still don't like Mayweather even though he's fighting Mosley, but for a lot of people Khan can earn their respect by not ducking certain types of fighters.

    Similar to yourself I see Khan as being green with a lot of learning still to do which is why I said he would have got more respect taking on the UK and European titleholders first, by claiming he's too good for them, getting KO'd by the first big puncher he went in against and then having his career carefully guided to avoid big punchers and move up to get his hands on the easiest belt available makes it look like he's blagging it.
     
  5. Lazarus

    Lazarus Realist Full Member

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    Yes he would recieve praise but as the same time his critics would say Maidana didn't land a clean shot and would still critisize Khan's Chin.

    But no, I don't think you should support a protected persons career and I also think he shouldn't be a champion(yet), but what I'm saying is that the fight Makes no business sense and that's the reason it was not made. Not because Khan is afraid - although people with think that. Maidana ONLY has a punchers chance and will put full force/pressure on Khan for 12 rounds.
     
  6. boricua100%

    boricua100% Boxing Addict Full Member

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    **** KHAN!!:hi: that's all
     
  7. Cobbler

    Cobbler Shoemaker To The Stars Full Member

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    Which 'official rankings' have Diaz, Campbell, Maidana and Ortiz in the top ten at LWW, but did not have Kotelnik in the top ten at the time Khan fought him (or indeed now)?

    Can you direct me to where I might find these 'official rankings'?
     
  8. bodhi

    bodhi Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    :good
     
  9. boxing4eva

    boxing4eva Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Kotelnik is still in most of the official rankings, however is not in the top 10.
     
  10. Cobbler

    Cobbler Shoemaker To The Stars Full Member

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    You still haven't told us what these 'official rankings' are and where we can find them. Who compiles them? Where are they?
     
  11. Blind Sheikh

    Blind Sheikh Active Member Full Member

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    People aren't scared of Bradley he's 5'6. Nobody wants to fight him because he's a very good fighter with no fanbase who brings NO MONEY.

    Why the **** would a hype job like Amir Khan fight a better fighter for less money?? Why not fight shot JMM for more $$$ and more publicity?

    Doesn't make sense to fight Bradley.

    As for Maidana they're trying to hype that **** up they will fight.
     
  12. boxing4eva

    boxing4eva Boxing Addict Full Member

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    In boxing there are these things called Sanctioning bodies. They in turn have belts at particular weights. Boxers fight each other to try win these belts. Sanctioning bodies maintain a list of rankings. These help determine who shall face the champion next. There is the WBA, WBC, IBF, WBO to name a few

    Lesson complete, now sit back in your chair
     
  13. war4years

    war4years Well-Known Member Full Member

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    even though kostya went on to bigger and better things, i always thought he should have rematched cool vince. losing is fine, but fighters always get tremendous respect for avenging losses, and i think not doing that removed a little bit of luster from kt.

    the excuse for not rematching philips is the same excuse for khan not rematching prescott
     
  14. boxing4eva

    boxing4eva Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Your division is determined by your weight and Khan is not starving himself to the make the weight, so what do you want him to do, come into the ring with a gut to make you happy because you think he's too tall?
     
  15. Cobbler

    Cobbler Shoemaker To The Stars Full Member

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    That's a fairly ridiculous way to compare as, if you know anything about boxing (which is still an open question) you will know that sanctioning body rankings are frequently compiled on the basis of factors other than who are the best fighters. You know this right, or do you actually think Ajose Olusugen is a legitimate top ten LWW just because the WBC say so?

    They also don't rank champions of other bodies so two of your suggested 'top ten fighters' (Bradley and Maidana) don't appear in the rankings of any of the other bodies. Nevermind, because you still can be proven to be talking complete bollocks. Andreas Kotelnik is rated in the top ten by two of the four main sanctioning bodies. Victor Ortiz is similarly ranked in the top ten by two of the four main sanctioning bodies. So, tell me, if you're going by these 'official rankings' and not your own opinion, why is Ortiz a legitimate top ten, but Kotelnik isn't? Nate Campbell appears in precisely zero of the top ten rankings. So why is he a legitimate top ten LWW, but Kotelnik isn't?

    Of course, despite you being proved utterly wrong on the point that you actually made, I should point out that most people wouldn't put an ounce of belief in the rankings of sanctioning bodies and would rather trust rankings of independent bodies. If we look at the Ring Magazine top ten, for example, Kotelnik is there (along with Maidana), but Ortiz, Campbell and Diaz are nowhere to be seen. Nearly the same story with the Boxing News rankings, although Diaz scrapes in at number 10 for them. Ortiz and Campbell nowhere to be seen.

    I guess that the lesson is complete and you can sit back in your chair. And next time try to do your homework before the lesson and you might not look quite so much of a twat.