Khan-Kotelnik apparently only did 30,000 buys!!!

Discussion in 'British Boxing Forum' started by ishy, Jul 23, 2009.


  1. Ubersteve

    Ubersteve The Main Event Mafia Full Member

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    Implying every non Pakistani wants to see him koed?
     
  2. thekokid

    thekokid Member Full Member

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    i think khans stlye only appeals to boxing diehards who appreciate his fast hands and in and out approach. for those who dint follow boxing as much their experiences of khan dont offer many knockouts and would prefer the all out powerful,aggressive blood and guts style of ricky hatton and the like, although hattons stlye was exposed at the highest level and khan possibly has better rounded boxing skills,, khan doesnt have a huge fanbase and that could explain the low number of purchases,.........


    and the £14.63 you have to pay
     
  3. T.C.W

    T.C.W Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I agree, there will always be PPV type of fights, like Pac v mayweather, hatton v khan these type of fight when fighter are getting massive pay days, but 90% of big fights can be covered with 2 to 3 million from a tv company. I think this is what HBO are doing now, If the fight is not going to at least 350 000, HBO will not take the risk.
     
  4. robpalmer135

    robpalmer135 Obsessed with Boxing banned

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    warren never wanted Khan on PPV or Sky
     
  5. Paddy

    Paddy ESB Founders Club Full Member

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    rumour has it that some one was spreading rumours that khan kotelnik was cancelled :hey:hey:hey:hey

    fact has it that some on put massive stiickers that said CANCELLED over the billboards in Manchester :lol::lol::lol::lol:
     
  6. brown bomber

    brown bomber 2010 Poster of the Year Full Member

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    Gallardo can't quote you for some reason. PPV i'm really not sure where the money goes. Presumably the sponsers will be harder to find with the reduced amount of coverage. PPV is Greed, end of. Domestic PPV is pure and utter greed.
     
  7. brown bomber

    brown bomber 2010 Poster of the Year Full Member

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    I personally believe that was an absolute load of ****. I never even saw a poster for it outside of Manchester. Who cares enough to try and get the show called off. There's far simpiler ways to do that but i'm sure no-ione would be that sad.

    The Murray rumour came from none other then Mr/Mrs Gladiator who allegedly was sparring with John Murray. I've heard one or two things since to suggest his words are occasionally subject to a bit of exageration.

    Ultimately I think the show was a good one. I enjoyed attending. There were some pretty decent fights- Khan was well supported. The order was ****ed up. The Enzo match made was stupid. The wait between fights wasn't terrible.

    If i'd have bought that on PPV i'd have been absolutely pissed. SKY are a shambles at the moment.
     
  8. Clarkson

    Clarkson Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I just went down the pub had 1 beer, watched the fight then went home.

    Spend £3 rather than £15.

    The internet doesn't help PPV's but neither do all the pubs showing it.
     
  9. SouthpawSlayer

    SouthpawSlayer Im coming for you Full Member

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    no surprise whatsoever, it was a dulll fight on paper and khan has lost a lot of his appeal, ppv is killing our sport with this **** wba title fight against a very average world champion who took 12 rounds to dispose of gavin rees, as far as im concerned khan is not going anywhere significant and warren is gonna put him ppv as many times as possible before he gets exposed again as a fighter who just cant take a clean shot, warren doesnt give a **** about boosting his viewing audience for the future so down the line he can set up huge ppv numbers because khan will not get far enough
     
  10. jc

    jc Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I think Haye will do more, 3 different people started a conversation with me yesterday about boxing - 3 people! That never happens and it was all about Haye - Valuev..

    As for Khan, nobody said anything before or after..
     
  11. Paddy

    Paddy ESB Founders Club Full Member

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    you dont need to explain yourself to me mate! as i said to some one who asked me about it "you cant be right all the time"

    I think the fact they they had been talking to witter proves that were talking to other people.

    Id never doubt u :deal
     
  12. Matt1986

    Matt1986 Member Full Member

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    No not at all but a lot of his support ie the khan army are Pakistani and there are a lot of haters who want to see him ko'd some might be Pakistani
     
  13. bux112

    bux112 New Member Full Member

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    I agree PPV is killing the sport, although it has been around a long time now. I remember watching De La Hoya Vs Camacho PPV Whilst on holiday in the States in 97 and that was megga bucks to watch and not the most thrilling spectacle (as I remember it). Why has it been such a successful business model in the past?

    What is the alternative? The terrestrial TV model seems to be broken and boxers seem to want to be financially secure before they are 30 years old which is understandable I suppose.

    With no decent tv coverage, web streaming would work as an alternative (IMO) but how do you get the 30,000 watching the stream last weekend to contribute to the cost? How much should they be charged? Is it even possible to charge them? Would image quality improve enough to make payment worthwhile?

    Would promoters get together to coordinate regular shows to make a monthly website subscription site viable for boxing fans?

    I'm full of questions but don't have the answers:patsch I think change is coming though because a viable business model will come out of this...eventually.

    Has anyone ever discussed this with the BBBoC? I guess there's not much point.
     
  14. threethirteen

    threethirteen Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Hatton-Pac was 800,000 in the US (or thereabouts). Can't blame Haye for pulling out. Its one thing to lose a fight and get hurt against world-class opposition for £1m, but for £400,000 when you're largely responsible for the hype and impact of the bout?

    Nope, nope, nope.
     
  15. threethirteen

    threethirteen Boxing Addict Full Member

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    PPV became predominant for "marquee" names because they looked at Tyson, DLH, Holyfield, Lewis and Trinidad and saw $$$$ without understanding the followings those guys had or the fact that PPV was because they were special fighters that the public was willing to pay for.

    They were such huge names that they needed the big bucks to even sign the contract.

    The problem is lesser fighters (fame and appeal wise) wanted the same money without understanding the requirements for doing so. terrestrial and standard cable fights couldn't offer them that sort of money, so they had no option but to go for PPV.