Khan or Kell?

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  1. ashishwarrior

    ashishwarrior I'm vital ! Full Member

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    i forgot that :good
     
  2. Brian

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    Khan is the bigger draw. Dollars make sense.
     
  3. N17

    N17 Loyal Member Full Member

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    So Khan must have 18 relatives that use this site.

    Hello to the Khan family :hi:
     
  4. Scar

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    To be fair, he lost twice. Everyone knows the Peterson loss was a joke anyway. Khan has four good wins at Welterweight, Diaz, Alexander, Collazo(coming off a KO win over Ortiz) and Algieri. Brook obviously only has Porter. Losing isn't really game breaking here, Pacquiao had losses leading up to the Mayweather fight, Mosley had losses, Ortiz, Guerrero, Maidana...etc. It's all about activity, name recognition and resume and Khan wins all three.

    Besides, Brook and his team don't seem confident or interested in facing Mayweather anyway. Didn't they already send a contract to Rios?.
     
  5. glovesofcrimson

    glovesofcrimson Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Has there ever been a more hilarious delusional fawning over an opponent from a boxer? I mean this guy has made up a contract and demanded floyd sign it, said Mayweather's dad insisted he would beat his son, claimed he doesn't need to fight his domestic rival who is the only other belt holder in the division to get the fight because he is 'selling out arenas and fighting the big names' when the arenas are half covered seats against Alexander and Algieri, said he sparred with Ward to counter claims his chin won't get broken by floyd's right hands, almost broke down in tears on social media when he picked Maidana, claimed Pacquiao was the easier fight because he'd dominated him in sparring all the time... the list goes on and on. It's like a literal mental problem he has developed since he got knocked out by Garcia and had a new barrel of excuses as well as the fact he was ko'd because he thought he was entitled to Mehwedder.
     
  6. Scar

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    Khan is past his prime?, what was his prime exactly?. He's 28 years old and coming off big wins. "Past prime" Khan would've lost to all of his last four opponents.
     
  7. realsoulja

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    Floyd would probably negate both. He has negated power hitters from the get go, but usually has to adjust to speed opponents for a round or 2.

    Khan 5 - 0 Brook

    But has dealt with power more than he has dealt with speed.

    Brook has displayed ring IQ against the likes of Porter, Gavin, Jo Jo Dan. Khan has displayed ring IQ against the likes of Algierie, Diaz, Maidana.

    You raise another good point, Khan has the screaming of the corner instructions that keeps him focused.

    Khan 6 - 0 Brook

    Size seems to give Khan problems, Algieri, Peterson and Presscott thats why I think Brook gives Khan serious trouble. But Mayweather isnt that big compared to Khan.
     
  8. Brian

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    Brook should have rode the Porter wave and made better choices for his last 2 opponents. He had a chance to get his name out there and he dropped the ball.

    This fight has to make money state-side. I don't think Brook is an option.
     
  9. glovesofcrimson

    glovesofcrimson Boxing Addict Full Member

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    If Hearn had put Rios in, which itself is not better than Alexander but about equal with Algieri, Brook would've had a decent chance of landing it.
     
  10. realsoulja

    realsoulja Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Relating it back to a Mayweather - Brook VS Mayweather - Khan discussion those two things hold no bearing.

    Canelo was World Champ and undefeated and got schooled. Hatton was a World Champ and undefeated and got schooled. Corrales was a World Champ and undefeated and got schooled.

    On the other hand, Mosley, Maidana II were not world champions and gave Mayweather bigger problems.

    Like I said, those two things you mentioned hold no bearing on this discussion.
     
  11. ashishwarrior

    ashishwarrior I'm vital ! Full Member

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    so you think this is the best part of his career

    or there is better displays against good opposition on the horizon

    bear in mind he stated years back he wanted to be out the game at 28/ 30


    always low risk big reward


    i will pull it when his career is finished and we will take it from there

    he as slowed imo

    he as took major punishment

    he still struggles badly to adapt making fights a lot harder for him self than they should be

    and at 28 he is only recently working on all his frailties , the older you get the harder things are to learn in a natural aspect


    and he went back to throwing hunter under the bus it dont look to well from here on out imo , unless he is continued to be carefully guided and managed with care
     
  12. ashishwarrior

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    beating khan does nothing for his legacy brook could go on to rule the division something khan will not do and in the books where it counts it would have been floyd taking that 0 whilst on the slide


    time will tell
     
  13. Scar

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    I'm not saying this the best part of his career and I'm not saying it's the worst either. What you see at the moment is Amir Khan. That's how he is and that's how he always was with some obvious improvements added.

    He slowed?, how so?. Didn't he look as flashy and fast as can be only recently against Alexander?. Changing trainers isn't doing anything for him to be honest. This is how he was programmed to be since the amateur days, it's impossible to make absolute revamps unless his entire brain is literally brainwashed to 1 year old status. Years of training and performing results in what you are able to judge today. The only thing a trainer can do is add minor improvements and tweaks. I promise you a past prime Khan, based on his attributes, will not beat Diaz, Collazo and Algieri. Sure he might beat Collazo. The first and only noticeable thing you will see from a past prime Khan, based on his attributes, is serious loss in speed. If that's gone, he's literally done with. That's what defines a past prime fighter, not being the same and being completely washed up.
     
  14. realsoulja

    realsoulja Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Now that it has been established that Khan poses more of a threat, if any, than Brook does. We can look at the fight from a fan perspective, which is a more fan friendly fight.

    Khan's glass jaw makes this fight more exciting to watch than Brook chocolate brownie right hand. The suspense and anticipation of knowing Khan is one decent shot away from the samba dance makes it a good fight to view.

    Khan 1 - 0 Brook.

    Khan FOTY candidate fights: Limond, Gomez, Maidana, Diaz, Algieri, Peterson
    Brook FOTY candidate fights: Carson Jones I

    Khan has been in more exciting fights than Brook has, comebacks against Limond, Drama against Diaz, controversy against Peterson, climax against Maidana, war against Gomez, edging past Algieri. Brook has been in one life and death fight against Carson Jones.

    Khan 2 - 0 Brook

    Khan schoolings: Kotelnik, Malinaggi, Collazo, Alexander, Judah
    Brook schoolings: Jennings, Hatton, Carson Jones II, Jo Jo Dan, Gavin

    Khan has displayed masterclass schoolings against higher level opposition than Brook has.

    Khan 3 - 0 Brook

    Khan trash talk: claims of iron chin, claims of taking Andre Wards best shots in sparring, calling out Cotto, Pacman and Golovkin
    Brook trash talk: Chocolate brownie right hand, sparring Kid Galahad, Calling out Thurman, Khan and Rios

    Khan easily the more fun and laughable, Khan 4 - 0 Brook.

    It has been established from two angles now, Khan not only poses more threat than Brook, he also proven to be more likely to make it a more entertaining spectacle than Brook would against Mayweather.
     
  15. ashishwarrior

    ashishwarrior I'm vital ! Full Member

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    tell that to maidana and garcia


    :huh but yeah a past it khan would beat a past it callazo nine times out of ten imo

    imo and it is only mo khan is slowing