Khan should retire based on him getting hurt? He's the most exciting fighter in BB!

Lose that! I think he going nowhere!

 

He isn't done, you're right, but he is on the decline. He's not as good now as he was when he beat Kotelnik, Maligaggi, Maidana and Judah. Compare those performances to his last four fights when he's been beaten on points, knocked out, beat a nobody and struggled past an old Julio Diaz. He's definitely declined, there's no question about that.

The only question is whether the decline is within him or the people around him. I'm very critical of Hunter and Conte and I think both have made Khan a lesser fighter, so maybe the decline in Khan is more about those people rather than Khan himself.

 

he is sliding and his power is non-existent. I think Ariza also said that he was no longer hitting as hard as before because of hand injuries

 

He's taken some serious shots over the last three years. His punch resistance is fading and, for a guy whose entire game is speed and reflex-based, he's looking just a little slower.

Those early years under Harrison have left him technically deficient. All they did was get him fit and any chance to retool his style has long passed. There's no point blaming Roach for his defensive liabilities - he turned Khan's offensive output into the best defence he could give him. Fast-paced pressure offset his relatively limited power and stopped opponents from getting set to fire back.

But as he's stepped up in class against more sturdy opposition, his lack of variety has proven his downfall (along with his appalling footwork). Slip made this point a lot: Khan has one gear - it's all in fourth and he never steps off of the pedal to change velocity.

It could never last against the better-schooled opponents like Peterson and Garcia.

 

khan will have the punch resistance of enzo,danny williams and audley at this rate.another year,another big ko then retire amir
fun fighter great speed great skill but no chin watsoever.
goodnight amir

 

Please tell me where he goes from here to achive anywhere near the level he once was?

Khan has balls the size of water mellons, blistering speed, hes as exciting to watch as anyone but, has no strength to hold people of him without shoving, struggels massivley under pressure, has limited power to keep people honest, and terrible punch resistance i dont care what people try and say.... hes got the star quality to push him to the top, just does not have all the atributes and its a shame.

Kell Brook as much as i dont like him would decapitate him.

Remeber 2 years ago Khan calling for JMM?.....im sorry but imagaine the massacre

 

I don't know, I think this is quite harsh on Khan's performances at his best, personally. I agree with a lot of what you have said but what Khan was doing 5-10 fights ago was a lot more effective than what he's doing now. He's regressed as a fighter and I'm not sure that can be pinned on his opposition because Garcia and Peterson aren't much better than Judah and Maidana, it's just that Khan isn't the same guy anymore. He's gone from schooling the skilled Kotelnik to being beaten up by an old Julio Diaz, so there's plenty of regression there and I have no doubt that if Khan was still the fighter he was in 2010 or so, he'd be amongst the best in the division right now.

Khan was flawed at his peak, no doubt about it, but he was a hard fighter to beat. He's lost that now, I think. He's become far too easy to hit, too easy to hurt and too easy to outpoint. He's now just a fast puncher who moves around a lot...that's it.

Roach perfected Khan's fighting style back in 2009-2011. That period of fights from Kotelnik to Judah was the best Khan has ever been and I don't know how he can get that back. I don't think Hunter will be the man to do it, anyway. Maybe Khan does need a change and if he somehow ended up back with Roach, I think we'd see a much better version of Khan, one who is hard to beat and can challenge the better guys in the division.

 

Garcia and Peterson and demonstrably better than Maidana and Judah, I'd say. Maidana's a warhead without a missile and he was able to swing a crude clubbing blow at Khan and put him on another planet. Peterson took 12 rounds to scrape by Khan and Garcia had him out of there.

Roach got him to go all-out and blitz opponents to such an extent he could lose later rounds and still come out okay. He also taught him to step off, move to the side and use his jab. But Khan is the same guy who got dropped by Limond, Gomez, Prescott and Garcia, and badly hurt by Peterson and Maidana.

He languishes in punching range, or opens up his offence while his feet get out of position. You can do that with Malignaggi because he doesn't hit hard and isn't the guy who throws lots of shots. Maidana nearly caught him out for backing up with his hands down, after dominating every round until that point.

He's just got those built-in flaws, regardless of what you teach him. Hunter was trying to get him to stay on two-three punch combos but he can't help himself.

 

He's not going to het better from now. He may not have to retire, but i think he should only fight 2 fights a year from now. And for his own health, avoid guys who will send him into next year.

He has made enough money now, is going to be married soon and doesn't really need to prove anything. He's really reached his peak when with roach. He doesn't have the brains to develop his game now that he is physically on the decline. He's not as fast and punch resistance seems to be what it was like before he joined ariza-roach combo.

 

doesn't make sense. khan runs and people call it exciting? its just enjoyable to see if he can stay up, that doesn't make him exciting, i mean when he's winning a fight its boring. Khans way too predictable, all you have to do is adjust to his speed, time him.. bye khan. he doesn't have the power to earn the respect of fighters so they don't walk him down so fast.

 

He needs to get into his old shape, big legs/small upper body? I can't think of many other fighters that get so many excuses made for them, though. He looked alarmingly slow tonight, I'd take Ricky burns over him right now.

 

Just re watched the khan fight. Does anyone think he tired physically and mentally last night? The first half of the fight I think he boxed really well, yes he got caught a couple of times but its to be expected. When its khan any shot that lands is magnified ten fold.

The knockdown khan seemed to switch off and was more annoyed at himself than hurt. In the second half he stopped feinting/ varying his shots and he just looked very predictable. His hands were low and he kept gritting his teeth and taking in huge gulps of air. In the championship rounds khan used to fight to the death, last night he looked ****ed. Maybe get Ariza back to do his conditioning?

I would like to see Khan have another 2 fights before facing the winner of the 140 tournament. Maybe a fight with Ricky Burns/Senchenko/Soto next.

 

Thought the same thing. I followed Enzo Macc's career from the start and they have a similar boxing gene in that they can do some tremendous work whilst always knowing they are one punch away from oblivion. Frustrating as hell and mentally draining. Something came up in a different thread the other day and I ended up going back and watching Enzo Macc-Frenkel. When that horrible knockout happened Enzo was ahead and had been boxing well - but then all of a sudden one decent punch from Frenkel and that's all gone to ****.

The thing is Khan actually has a better chin than that and you have to admire his heart because he knows his weakness, but last night there was an increased hesitancy in his punching. Also, the more they get sparked the greater the vulnerability becomes and so greater the susceptibility to it happening again. Khan has had a couple of stoppages against him and been in some gruelling fights already. It is now affecting the way Khan he is fighting as he is almost running away times on the backfoot of late, and against last night's opponent that isn't good news.

Calling for his retirement is going overboard but at the same time it takes a stretch of the imagination to see him doing well against the big boys now. And with his wealth there doesn't seem much point struggling along in fair to middling fights where is he hanging on for dear life at times.

Gonna be interesting to see Golden Boy's next move.

 

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