Khan vs Algieri draws 1 million viewers for Spike TV and PBC

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  1. Ducklerr

    Ducklerr Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    :nod Less than Garcia/Salka on Showtime.

    :nod Less than Garcia/Herrera on Showtime.

    Not a remotely fair comparison, but 5 times less than Garcia-Peterson on NBC.

    National ties always tell in boxing!
     
  2. bballchump11

    bballchump11 2011 Poster of the Year Full Member

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    well the Berto/Lopez card was good in it's own right with Porter vs Bone and Arreola being on it. But it peaked between above 900K while Khan's card peaked close to 1.2 million.

    I think both are successful cards
     
  3. Ducklerr

    Ducklerr Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I very much agree! I was more making a point about how I do not believe Amir is a draw in the US.
     
  4. bballchump11

    bballchump11 2011 Poster of the Year Full Member

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    oh yeah I got you. I think he's a decent draw, but I think Danny Garcia and Broner are bigger draws
     
  5. Ducklerr

    Ducklerr Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    :nod Broner is American and marketed well and Garcia has the passionate Puerto Rican fan base that he has done a very good job catering to by fighting in Puerto Rico.
     
  6. Badbot

    Badbot You can just do things. Full Member

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    Doesnt Spike come in a package with a bunch of other channels?
    93m homes might recieve it but how many actually want it?
     
  7. Scar

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    The Hatton-Mayweather situation is completely different. Ever since Hatton beat Tszyu and all fans were demanding, asking and wanting to see Mayweather face Hatton. Hatton's first move to 147 was against reigning champion Luis Collazo, sure it was close but it wasn't a joke opponent either. Even nearly a decade later and Collazo was still tough enough to give Khan a serious challenge. You honestly can't be serious when you say Garcia has been more contested at Welterweight for struggling against Peterson(who was also moving up to the Catchweight requested by team Garcia) and beating Salka while Hatton struggled and beat a reigning Champion. No offense, but that's just absolutely silly. That said, the demand for Mayweather vs Hatton was ongoing for 3 straight years. I don't remember a single campaign for Mayweather vs Garcia till I bumped into you.

    JMM was a fight for Mayweather after coming off 2 years of inactivity. Mayweather's next fight is a record setting fight which could equal Marciano's legendary record. Sit back, relax and allow your brain to comprehend and then evaluate both situations.

    Was Garcia vs Salka literally announced 4 weeks before the actual fight?. You need to evaluate situations properly before making ridiculous comparisons and statements.

    Mayweather vs Garcia isn't making bigger numbers. Fans will order and the numbers will be big simply because Mayweather is involved, but it certainly won't make more money than Mayweather vs Khan. Garcia has been quiet lately, barely mentioned any interest in wanting to fight Mayweather and his ring performances haven't been very impressive either. These factors matter a lot and when there's no prior hype/talk, you will have fewer numbers. Common sense. I know that Mexicans and Puerto Ricans drive numbers, but they're not stupid to not realize that Garcia hasn't done much lately compared to Khan who beat Collazo, Alexander and Algieri.
     
  8. Ducklerr

    Ducklerr Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    First off, Collazo gave Khan a serious challenge? :huh He was down 3 times and lost by an average of 14 points on the scorecards.

    I never remotely suggested that Garcia was more of a WW than Hatton. I was just pointing out that Hatton had his last 2 fights at JWW before the Floyd fight while Garcia has technically fought at a higher weight in his 2 fights running up to a would-be Floyd fight. And while Hatton did get a decision over a fully-fledged WW in Collazo, many felt he lost. Yes, of course there was major demand for a Floyd/Hatton fight, I've never argued otherwise. But there was actually demand for Floyd/Garcia after the Lucas fight.

    You are seriously overreacting to a lot of what I say. As you will note, I pointed out that this situation cannot possibly be compared to the JMM one. So just calm down for a minute, mate. You have a habit of going off the wall when someone disagrees with you, even if they do it calmly.

    About Garcia-Salka? Not sure what you're on about, the fight was officially announced July 2nd and contested on August 9th, so that's 5 weeks. Khan-Algieri was officially announced on April 15th and contested on May 29th so that's actually six weeks. So, there was MORE time to build up a Khan-Algieri fight! Let alone the fact that Algieri is 100 timed the name Salka is simply by virtue of being decimated by Manny. Then take into account that 93 million homes had access to Khan-Algieri while on 27 million had access to Garcia-Salka and it's even more worrying for Khan's supposed "fan base" in the US that he only did 200K more viewers on average than that fight! And while there was some backlash for Khan-Algieri, it certainly wasn't on the level of the Garcia-Salka backlash. It appears you are the one who needs to evaluate situations properly before making ridiculous statements. :nod

    If you think Khan-Floyd would do bigger numbers than Garcia-Floyd then more power to you, you just happen to be dead wrong. Rememer all the demand for Floyd-Hatton? Didn't break 1mil PPV buys. Floyd-Maidana rematch? you'd think that would be big because a bunch of people who can't score thought Maidana should have won the first time arond. Not even 900K buys!! Why? Because there are only 200,000 Argentine Americans! It's not about demand from the real boxing fans, it's about national pride! Do you remember the ravenous clamor for Guerrero-Floyd? No, me neither. But it still outsold Floyd-Hatton on PPV because Guerrero is Mexican!! National ties always tell!
     
  9. Ducklerr

    Ducklerr Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    As I've said before, I am making NO argument that Garcia deserves the fight more, but it would undoubtedly sell more.

    Please at least address these 4 points:
    1.) How exactly do you believe that Collazo gave Amir a "serious challenge" when they fought?
    2.) Which fight was announced nearer to the date of the fight. Khan-Algieri or Garcia-Salka?
    3.) And when you have answered question 2. How do you explain that Khan-Algieri only did 200K more average viewers than Garcia-Salka considering the outcry against Salka as an opponent and that Khan-Algieri was available in 65 million more homes!
    4.) If we want to compare Khan and Garcia's numbers when fighting free on Showtime then let's do that. How do you explain that Khan-Alexander did 30% less viewers than Garcia-Herrera and less viewers than Garcia-Salka? Khan-Alexander was announced 5 weeks before the fight, same as Garcia-Salka and one week less than Garcia Herrera.
     
  10. DSG496

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    this is why I don't understand khan picking algeiri, when he could have fought brook in the UK, won the IBF belt in front of probably 60k+ in a stadium with big ppv numbers. He can then call out Floyd and genuinely present himself as a big name, with momentum, a world title and a big fan base.
     
  11. Ducklerr

    Ducklerr Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Well that's not really the point. If you have access to the content you can choose to view it or not. And if you are a fan of boxer who is fighting on Spike and you have access to the channel then chances are you will tune in, same goes for any other channel. But if you don't receive a channel then you certainly cannot watch it so that harms the potential viewership of a fighter campaigning on one of those channels. And if Garcia-Salka did 1.1mil average viewers on Showtime while Khan-Algieiri did 1mil average viewers on Spike while 65 million more homes have access to Spike than Showtime that does not bode well for Khan's supposed "fan base".

    But to answer your question, Spike is the 17th most watched Cable channel with an average viewership for all programming of 908K.
     
  12. Ducklerr

    Ducklerr Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Because he'd still be asleep if he fought Kell, and thought certainly wouldn't help him get a Floyd fight :nod
     
  13. antonio plaisir

    antonio plaisir the detonator Full Member

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    we're supposed to believe it's to spite brook and hearn.
     
  14. Asian_boxing

    Asian_boxing Active Member Full Member

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    For comparative purposes, Tanaka Vs Yedras (shown in just 2 areas of Japan) was seen by around 2.75 million this past Saturday.
     
  15. DSG496

    DSG496 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    personally I think he'll win easily on points against brook, brooks got ok power, but he's not really a 1 punch ko artist, and normally needs a few punches to get someone out of there.

    I can see team mayweather doing the sums and thinking, "well this guy only got 1mil to watch him on free TV, how we going to sell this fight at $70??"