khan vs. malignaggi at 140

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  1. KCD

    KCD All aboard. Full Member

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    I cant believe people are picking Khan. One guy (Malignaggi) is proven at world level, the other (Khan) isnt.

    At the moment Khan isnt even the best in Europe, typical Warren matchmaking has disguised up until now Khans flaws.

    Yes he has unparralled handspeed, but only when he is allowed to tee off. When Gomez was fighting back Khan grabbed and looked at the ref. Top operaters will pick up on this and take advantage of these flaws.

    If anyone seriously believes Khan is top 10 in the world at the moment after last night you really need a reality check:-(
     
  2. Ubersteve

    Ubersteve The Main Event Mafia Full Member

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    I just think it's a very good style match up for Khan. Khan looks good against boxers, it's not like Paulie is going to be able to do what Gomez did. Paulie is fast, but Khan is faster and hits harder. Extremely bad style match up for Paulie. Even if I think Paulie is more suited to hang with the Hattons of the world than Khan is at the moment.
     
  3. Addie

    Addie Myung Woo Yuh! Full Member

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    Khan is good against C level boxers. Paulie is what Khan thought Gomezs was, "a world class fighter". Khan hits harder, but he isn't going to stop or trouble Paulie if Miguel Cotto couldn't get him out of there in 12 rounds.

    We've established Amir Khan has absolutely no defence, he isn't hard to hit and he sure as hell isn't hard to hurt. Paulie has enough power to hurt Khan is Limmond and Gomez did, because he has far greatest technique and punches faster and sharper than any of those guys. Paulie is also proven over 12 rounds, where we don't know how Amir Khan would cope.

    The smart money is on the more experianced and less vunerable fighter.
     
  4. Ubersteve

    Ubersteve The Main Event Mafia Full Member

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    I can see where you're coming from, and I'm a Paulie fan (hence the avatar), but I just don't see it. Khan probably doesn't have the power to KO Paulie, but he certainly has the power to get his respect. I don't think he has the power to KO Khan, a KD if Khan is off balance is possible.

    Khan would get a UD off the back of hitting the more eye catching salvos, I think. Paulie suits him.
     
  5. Relentless

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    can khan last 12 with cotto?
     
  6. Ubersteve

    Ubersteve The Main Event Mafia Full Member

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    No, but I don't see how that means Malignaggi would automatically beat him. Paulie wouldn't knock Earl out in one round.
     
  7. stevebhoy87

    stevebhoy87 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Totally agree with this anaylist, malignaggi is the better fighter p4p and like you say would do far better against the hattons, juan diaz's of this world however his style is suited for khan, paulie aint knocking him out therefore won't be able to capatalise on khans weakness. khan outsrips paulie in most other areas, handspeed, power, combos so i see aud for khan.

    To many people are looking at fighter a beats fighter b therefore must beat fighter c when anaylising this imo. If paulie had power he would knock khan out but he don't and khan is slightly better at the thingspaule does well. Paulie the better fighter on a world stage though and woul dhave him higher on my p4p list. And khan certainly aint knocking him out
     
  8. BIG WORM

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    but paulies been in with cotto???

    yea so wot, he didnt win he got beaten the **** out of..

    he got killed by cotto so it means hed beat khan. Gomez hits harder than malignaggi
     
  9. Relentless

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    the right half of my left nut could have knocked out graham earl that night.
     
  10. Relentless

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    paulie gave cotto one of his toughest fights, i dont see khan lasin 2 with cotto.
     
  11. Addie

    Addie Myung Woo Yuh! Full Member

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    Paulie has been in with world class opposition, whereas Amir Khan is still fighting at domestic level.

    Miguel Cotto failed to stop Paulie, and therefore on that basis, I wouldn't bet my house on Amir Khan getting a stoppage.

    In all probability, the fight will go 12 rounds, and Amir has never had to do that before whereas Paulie is accumstomed to it. He will know how to pace himself, and he will also be able to hit Khan often because he himself is very ellusive, and Khan has a non-existant defense. Paulie may not have a punch, but he can hurt Khan. His technique is leaps and bounds above any punch Khan has been hit with, and it will be coming at speed, so to say Khan won't get hurt is dismissive.

    I see the fight being a chess match throughout, with the two of them landing there fair share of combinations. Amir Khan will be the busier of the two, whereas Paulie will be pacing himself for a 12 round fight. Later down the stretch, the inexperianced Amir Khan, who may be edging on the cards, will be tiring. Paulie will then use his experiance at the top level to push on the pressure, and hit Khan with combinations of shots. Amir Khan may not be hurt, but he will be exhausted, and he'll either go down because of this, or he will be inable to defend himself. He has already gone into his shell on plenty occasions against C level fighters, and early on in the fight, so I don't fancie his chances of fighting Paulie off. I see a late Tko, probably around round 10-11.

    This is all speculation of course. Amir Khan could pace himself well, and outbox Paulie for 12 rounds. But the difference in boxing ability isn't all that much, and neither is the difference in speed. If Amir wants to get his shots off first he'll be the busier man, and with his lack of 12 round experiance at top level, I don't see him coping with it as well as Paulie. All depends whether or not Paulie has the ability to finish the fight.

    I'm not an Amir Khan fan, so I could also see the situation where Amir Khan is hit with shots he doesn't see, where he is off balance, and he will be horribly behind on the scorecards. Amir Khan goes down quite often, a lot like Trinidad used to. He isn't hurt or dazed, but he goes down because his balance isn't what it should be, or he didn't see a punch coming. Now let's put this in perspective. This has all happened when Amir Khan has been fighting domestic opposition. A shot Earl, and a shot Gomez has been his most impressive wins. Paulie's resumes is leaps and bounds above this.

    Paulie wins, either on the scorecards or a late tko.
     
  12. Ubersteve

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    You can't legislate for what happens when people move up in class that simply, though. Plenty of fighters who've had scares on the way up against mediocre opposition who've hung fine at the top level once they get there. Also plenty of fighters who destroy everyone on the way up, then get battered once they reach top level.
     
  13. Betty Swollocks

    Betty Swollocks James 'Lights Out' Toney Full Member

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    Malignaggi by KO. He's bigger, and while feather fisted he must hit harder than smaller domestic level fighters like Limond and Gomez, the incredibly light hitting Limond in particular had Khan in dire straits and was robbed on the 'W' by the ref.
     
  14. this bloke

    this bloke Well-Known Member Full Member

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    i think even ***gis power would be to much for khans chin
     
  15. Ajfourty7

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    NO chance if cotto couldn't do it kahn can't