Khan's chin is still grade A china.

Discussion in 'British Boxing Forum' started by Amsterdam, Jun 17, 2007.


  1. Max Molyneux

    Max Molyneux Liverpool Liver Tickler Full Member

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  2. IronBull

    IronBull Active Member Full Member

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    If Khan gets knockdown then there is no shame in that.. this is boxing. I will still posts here :)

    You claimed Khan is a fraud. What if Willie gets KTFO? Would you call Willie a fraud?? Your logic doesn't make sense. Idiot.

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  3. BigEars

    BigEars Boxing Addict Full Member

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    In fairness to Amsterdam , Willie never claimed he could beat Floyd Mayweather in a 4 rounder or said that he was better than all of his competitors at British level despite not facing anyone near their level .

    Khan should beat Limond , how he does it will be very interesting .
     
  4. stake501

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    He did claim that he could beat Khan though...would he be a fraud if he loses.....of course not....i would be more worried if he didnt.

    Earl, murray, thaxton have trash talked Khan as well, are they frauds? no

    this is business gentlemen, and the hype and trash talking is all part of it.

    Every up and comer talks above their station, thats their job

    Froch does it more than anyone, and he seems to get less hate than Khan, who is nowhere near as mouthy as that guy (or good??).

    a lot of stuff he says is sensationalised in print, where you cannot pick up the context or tone of the comment.

    In his televised interviews, he still seems rather respectful and humble about his opponents, he just believes in his own ability.
     
  5. BigEars

    BigEars Boxing Addict Full Member

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    People will of course claim they can beat their immediate opponent , but that's okay cause they're facing them . It's another thing to claim you're above Earl , Thaxton , Limond while beating Steffy Bull .

    Khan also has a poor understanding of the British scene , claiming to have handled John Murray easily in sparring yet this was actually Steve Murray .
    I wouldn't be surprised if Khan has never seen John Murray or Jon Thaxton before .

    It's one thing to claim you can beat a guy and is another to claim you are above several fighters that have all fought at a higher level .

    Froch's statements may be bold and he seems a bit of a **** but has backed up everything so far and has proven to be genuine top 10 and maybe top 5 in his weight division . He makes big claims but he is an established fighter , Khan makes big claims but hasn't even won a domestic title yet .​
     
  6. stake501

    stake501 Active Member Full Member

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    Froch has been saying hes the best supermiddle since he began boxing :deal
     
  7. brown bomber

    brown bomber 2010 Poster of the Year Full Member

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    Not Steve Murray the pro it was Johns Am brother.
     
  8. madpup

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    What Khan has said is no different to 90% other boxers, they talk trash, and he certainly isn't the worst.

    Ultimately given that he wins his next fight, he will be judged upon how quickly he steps up, if you ignore the media hype it is too early to judge him one way or the other.
     
  9. stake501

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    Yes...and give Amir time, he will also.....thats what he believes

    whether or not he is right, only time and results will tell.

    The only way to back up the talk is in the ring.

    We wanted a step up, hes fighting Limond...what more do we want on the 13th fight.

    All boxers big themselves up, its the nature of the game, and they do it whils on the rise, and stop the presses they do it even more when they are at the top....see mayweather etc....

    do you think the others boxers really care, i bet not, they are all eager to get in the ring with khan,

    1./ payday
    2./ chance to be the first one to beat him
    3./ they lick their lips everytime their name is mentioned

    this fake indignation and feeling offended on their behalf is the real joke here.
     
  10. BigEars

    BigEars Boxing Addict Full Member

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    That's what some people say but others are claiming it was Steve .
    I certainly remember news stories of Khan sparring Steve Murray so Khan has sparred both of them and has mixed one of them up with John Murray .

    The point is , Khan doesn't seem to know domestic boxing too well .
     
  11. Amsterdam

    Amsterdam Boris Christoff Full Member

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    When are you all going to learn?:p

    I doubt anyone would trash the way he is being brought up, if he was just a normal prospect going about his LEARNING PROCESS. The difference is that he's shoved in everyone's face as the next big thing, a "future ATG", a "physical phenom" and a bunch of other ridiculous things, this is offencive to hardcore boxing fans. Just because you wish to defend it, doesn't make it "okay", this whole trip is not okay, it's a disaster for boxing waiting to happen.

    The worst part is that the little **** is falling into his own little mess, albeit from an insecure stand point, where as guys like Froch are just purely hotheads who are talking to sell and aren't hyped much to begin with, do you see more negative for Froch, or more lenient/forgiveness for Froch? Everything from Khan apologists is a forgiveness type factor.

    I'm an idiot?:yep

    Anyway, he's just a young kid, EXACTLY, and one with a jaw of glass at that, so it would be the best idea to stop hyping him to no end, but that's not going to happen is it? Because they plain and simply are looking to milk the cash cow for what it is worth, I have seen this technique MANY times and this is by far the worst one on one of the most suspicious examples to date, which is why I am in such an ANTI-Khan stance.

    Let me remind you something, nobody expected Joe to do much of anything before he beat Eubank, he had tons of doubters if you remember and no hype train to push him. After he beat Eubank, still no hype train really...

    I guess a physical phenom, who just happens to be a more simple guy from Wales with no Olympic medal and no novelty(such as being young and successful in the amatuer's, ooooh, that must mean he'll be an ATG) is not worth completely investing into.

    Hell, it wasn't until the Lacy bout, where the guy finally was able to show the World what he can at his best and for the World's boxing fanbase to accept that he's a phenominal fighter.

    Britain hyping and jumping on the Joe Calzaghe bandwagon after the Eubank fight would have pushed Joe further and more lukrative fights would have been made that Joe would have won, bringing more sporting glory back to Britain.
     
  12. Amsterdam

    Amsterdam Boris Christoff Full Member

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    What are you talking about fool? Nobody really expects Limond to win, if he does it would be considered a massive "upset". This is because Limond is a very simple domestic fighter, but he will fight back, unlike a can like Steffy Bull.

    And I didn't say knocked down, I said KNOCKED THE **** OUT by a light puncher like Willie, which is a career ruining blow after all of this insane hype.

    You going to be around if it happens? I'm dealing out crow to every unsensible Khan apologist who liked to make it personal just on boxing discussion, hype job discussion and chin discussion and you may recieve the biggest amount.

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  13. BigEars

    BigEars Boxing Addict Full Member

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    haye has been brought up quicker than Khan but as said if he had just quietly gone about his business no one would have a problem with his progress .

    Hamed was brought up quicker aswell .
     
  14. Amsterdam

    Amsterdam Boris Christoff Full Member

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    Cheers.:good

    Come on now my friend, laugh with me.....


    :yep :yep :yep
     
  15. rooq

    rooq Rooq's Boxing Promoter Full Member

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    its just a damn shame that haye is pretty much unknown in this country. i believe they struggled to sell tickets for the bonin fight. and then we have haye-mormeck coming up which will probably get **** all media attention.

    but anyway, the khan hype annoys me as much as the next man, but i'm still willing to see beyond that and just enjoy seeing how far he gets and how he improves in each fight. predicting someone to become an atg at this point in their career is stupid and that kind of stance is as annoying as the other extreme.

    from the entirely selfish perspective of a being a british boxing fan, i'd like khan to succeed just to increase the liklihood of more boxing on regular tv. :yep