Khan's defence is his biggest flaw - not his chin

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  1. uraharakisuke

    uraharakisuke Well-Known Member Full Member

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    His defence tonight was atrocious, he kept doing the Pacman, "i'll stand still with my hands up and let this guy uppercut the **** out of me". The **** is Roach thinking? The man can't teach defence.

    Still, great performance from both men, but Khan is lightyears away from Mayweather with his cheese-grater defence.
     
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  2. BB Boxer

    BB Boxer GoldenGlove competitor Full Member

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    Agreed. The defense needs more work. I think this whole talk of Mayweather is premature as is. He needs 2-3 fights more at 140 and needs to learn how to fight under pressure. But great showing for tonight by Khan.
     
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  3. Leon

    Leon The Artful Dodger Full Member

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    I was thinking Khan needs a new trainer while I was watching the fight. Maybe Steward?
     
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  4. uraharakisuke

    uraharakisuke Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Steward could take his jab game even further and improve his defence, but constant flip-flopping between trainers ain't always a good idea.

    Maybe he should try to join the Mayweather camp...
     
    uraharakisuke, Dec 11, 2010
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  5. RJJFan

    RJJFan Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    Actually, I think his counters need work. If he leaned back and threw a LH when Maidana was throwing those uppers, he could have hurt Maidana.
     
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  6. gatorbama

    gatorbama Well-Known Member Full Member

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    yeah i dont think roach is good for him. roach trains him like he does pac but i dont think he should cause of the dif in arm length
     
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  7. uraharakisuke

    uraharakisuke Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Doing anything other than standing still like a fool would have been better. But yeah I agree, the boy still needs to do a lot of work to be elite level.
     
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  8. ows_s

    ows_s Member Full Member

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    Yep. He was awful on the back foot no doubt.
    Great heart, real bottle but needs to tighten that defence
     
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  9. Leon

    Leon The Artful Dodger Full Member

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    Amir was eating the same uppercut sandwiches emmanuel loves to eat. Being trained by roach gave Amir the same flaw roach's best product has.

    What do you think the Mayweather camp can do for him?:think
     
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  10. OPBF

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    Roach teaches these guys defence.

    It's just these guys don't follow Roach's commands all the time. Because they have something to prove. That they can take the other guy's punches.

    Roach's defense is predicated on lateral movement, not standing in front of a guy with ear muffs on.
     
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  11. PH|LLA

    PH|LLA VIP Member Full Member

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    Guy gets knocked the **** out by Presscot in 1 round. 2 years later takes on a bigger, stronger, faster, more skilled version of Presscot, and beats him.

    Roach has improved him tenfold, but there's no doubt Khan still has ways to go. It's not gonna be overnight.
     
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  12. OPBF

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    Roach teaches these guys defence.

    It's just these guys don't follow Roach's commands all the time. Because they have something to prove. That they can take the other guy's punches.

    Roach's defense is predicated on lateral movement, not standing in front of a guy with ear muffs on.
     
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  13. Riquelminho

    Riquelminho Member Full Member

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    He was courageous tonight, and I feel at times he wanted to prove a point. I don't think it was anything to do with Roach, the gameplan seemed to work great in the first half of the fight until Khan started to slug with the slugger.

    He will have learnt immensely from this fight and this will make him a much more accomplished fighter in the future. He is far off being the finished article yet. Remember he's only 24.
     
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  14. uraharakisuke

    uraharakisuke Well-Known Member Full Member

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    They can teach him to avoid those stupid uppercuts.

    "Same move everytime!"
     
    uraharakisuke, Dec 11, 2010
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  15. bballchump11

    bballchump11 2011 Poster of the Year Full Member

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    Yeah I was watching him and for a second thought it was Paquiao out there, except he ain't got Pacquiao's chin.
     
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