PK, I will just address a couple of points you made Manny Pacquiao has never missed a drugs test. Manny Pacquiao has never failed a drugs test. Manny Pacuiao does not have to do what Floyd demands of him, because Floyd is not the authority here. If Manny Pacquiao had refused the demands of the anti doping agency, if he had broken any rules regarding doping in boxing, you would have a point. Even so, Manny Pacquiao has since agreed to Olympic style drug testing. I repeat, Manny Pacquiao has agreed to Olympic style drugs testing. Drugs testing is NOT the reason this fight hasn't happened. These articles below are from 2012. A 50/50 split is not good enough for Floyd apparently. Yet, you can go back to 2010 and see that Pac had agreed to Olympic style drug testing. Two years mate. You are still living in the past. Pacquiao has conceded. Drugs testing is not a roadblock any more. http://sports.yahoo.com/news/schaef...acquiao-bout-fan-reaction-211800762--box.html http://www.opposingviews.com/i/spor...ao-made-more-money-floyd-mayweather-last-year Because his promoter Bob Arum did not want the rematch. It has nothing to do with Pac being scared. "According to his contract, because Pacquiao lost the fight he can request a rematch against Bradley. But fight promoter Bob Arum said it's not a given that the two will reunite for another bout in November. Arum said he's heard from some ticket brokers that "no one wants to come" to a Bradley rematch because most fight watchers considered Pacquiao's effort a one-sided victory." http://articles.latimes.com/2012/jun/10/sports/la-sp-boxing-pacquiao-bradley-20120611 "Promoter Bob Arum was still fuming about the split-decision verdict that went against Manny Pacquiao on Saturday and said there would be no rematch with Timothy Bradley unless Nevada attorney general Catherine Cortez Masto launches an investigation." http://sports.yahoo.com/news/boxing...ntrovery-investigation-judge-duane-ford-.html So your reasoning is that Pacquiao refused a rematch with Bradley because he knows he lost. Pacquiao has faced Marquez 3 times now and has always struggled. He has 2 wins and draw, yet there are many people who believe he lost all 3 fights against Marquez. There are more boxing fans who believe Marquez was robbed in the third fight than there are those who believe Bradley beat Pac. It's clear that Marquez is the nemesis of Pac. Yet, Pac is going to face him for a fourth time. Even though he has two wins and a draw on his record, even though he knows Marquez is difficult for him, he will face him for a fourth time just because he wants to erase all doubts. He doesn't need to go there again, but that's just the kind of warrior he is. Yet he is scared of a Bradley rematch? atsch
Interesting. I was under the assumption they were 4:1, but they didn't have the procedures to catch out synthetic testosterone. Has anyone got a link which confirms Floyd's USADA only work by a 6:1 ratio?
lets get one thing straight its not the multiple different weight world titles that has everyone suspicious about pac, its his constant refusal to accept wada, usada or vada testing alex ariza openly refuses to take these tests when he worked with pac for mayweather and JMM fights, they out right refused all the same for chavez too i have boxed with lads who were not even elite standard here as amateur in ireland who were taking testosterone and compounds such as anavar, trem and equipoise for no financial gain , maybe one or two ton on a white collar show headlining as the main fight but that would be it if your that naive to think guys at the top of the professional game where 100's of millions of dollars are at stake do not take then your blinded by the fact manny is your idol, i suggest you go into a boxing gym gain some trust and ask around for someone to supply you with some test and you will get some
flea can you tell me the story with usada not testing for synthetic testosterone, all the different types of testosterone have had tests to find them in blood and urine since the 80's, im a bit lost with that bit btw i fully agree with your thinking mayweather is without a doubt on gear as with 90% of his peers (except jeff thomas) [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-C3k5zQHem0[/ame]
Like i stated before, i have made two statements in this thread, which a complete facts. And these two facts are the basis of this discussion. These two facts along with Manny Pac dramatic drop in performance, is the reason why i have accused him of using PEDs. 1:Manny Pacqauio has not implement proper Olympic style drug testing into boxing and his fights. 2: Manny Pacqauio has refused implement Olympic styled drug testing into his fights. There is not documentation of proof of Manny Pacquio implementing Olympic style drug testing into his fights. At the end of the day as a ambassador for boxing, and one of the primary fighters that is what is required of him to move the sport forward in a positive direction against drugs. The drug regime in boxing is in his embryonic stages, and if the top athlete's in the sport refuse to embrace more drug testing that is not good for the sport. Manny Pacquio team have never wanted to implement olympic style drug testing. There is no way you can prove me wrong, because i am right. Like i have stated there is not much of a debate, because their is no proof of Manny Pac implementing Olympic style drug testing. Below is some information on drugs in boxing. Floyd Mayweather VS Shane Mosley, drug testing information. http://www.usada.org/ar-sportfolio-teams Floyd Mayweather vs Shane Mosley official USADA test results. http://www.usada.org/mayweather-mosley/ Floyd Mayweather vs Victor Ortiz official USADA test results. http://www.usada.org/ortiz-mayweather And the Olympic style drug test, did test for testosterone. If that is the case, Lamont Peterson would of not been court. Floyd Mayweather and a new wave of drug testing in boxing. http://www.maxboxing.com/news/max-b...er-and-the-new-wave-of-drug-testing-in-boxing
Like I said to PK, Pac conceded to the demands 2 years ago. He's willing to undergo Olympic style drug testing. It's a non issue any more. When he initially refused, IMO this was down to his ego, rather than any guilt. It was a bad move on his part, because it got people talking, but this is not conclusive proof of anything. The multiple weight world titles have always been used as a stick to beat Pac with, much like you are doing with his bobble head. Who is naive? I've no doubt many professionals are doping. Like I have stated before in the lounge, I would seriously consider juicing myself if I wasn't worried about the side effects. I have looked into tren, and the strength gains you can get from it. I even admitted from the very beginning that Pac COULD be doping. All I'm saying is that the evidence is pathetic. Head size, statements about him being scared of needles, all of this is bull****. Everyone is entitled to an opinion, but an allegation like that is no joke, and if you're prepared to say it like it's a fact, then you better have some damn good evidence to back your **** up. PK, you have no reading comprehension. Your argument has been exposed. We are done here. You are just repeating the same points which have already been dealt with.
Why are you completely lying...? of course USADA Olympic styled drug testing tests for Testosterone. If that is the case, how on earth did Lamont Peterson fail a drugs test against Amir Khan..? you are completely lying, and you're statement is full of ****. Floyd Mayweather and a new wave of drug testing in the sport. http://www.maxboxing.com/news/max-b...er-and-the-new-wave-of-drug-testing-in-boxing
You looked bigger on prize fighter, are you on steroids..? Or did you just implement different training...? Why is this statement Flea man made a deal..? It's no deal! He is making stuff up and completely lying. USADA does test for testosterone, if that is the case Lamont Peterson would of not failed a drug test vs Amir Khan.
Fair play but.... USADA test for testosterone. http://www.usatf.org/about/legal/antidoping/usadaprotocol.asp 9. Results Management Whenever USADA receives a laboratory report confirming a positive test, elevated testosterone or epitestosterone ratio or epitestosterone concentration, or when USADA has other reason to believe that a doping violation has occurred, such as admitted doping, refusal to test or trafficking under the rules of the applicable IF, then USADA shall address that case through the following results management procedures:
Just a slight correction to your statement. VADA caught Lamont Peterson by implementing Carbon Isotope Ratio (CIR) test that is more 'sensitive' on detecting synthetic testosterone. VADA does this to all samples whereas USADA doesn't. There is so much dirt in the the modern professional sports and unfortunately some of these national antidoping associations are not transparent enough in their testing procedures, which leaves too many open questions.
As long as Mayweather is not participating in all-year round random testing I will have suspicions Nonito is setting the right example not mayweather!
***an broke his leg, still got up from two KDs, and the towel was thrown in, khan has never KOd a fighter