Fantastic and informative post, boranbkk. You've shot right up to the top of the list in regards to quality posters whom I make sure to follow on here. Cheers!
A challenge to any and all boxing fans tuned in to this post... can anyone name a single other fighter in recent history who laid his opponents out as savagely and violently as Galaxy did with one punch? He routinely laid his opponents out "cold", so to speak. The rarest form of power puncher in the game, the type of operator who can completely separate another man from his senses with a single blow...
He had the sheer KO numbers on paper but what was the reality when he actually stepped up in competition? I remember Demarco surviving dozens of flush Valero bombs in what should have been the mans prime. I also saw Valero lay out an aged and faded Antonio Pitalua, but that was also hardly a one punch or devastating knockout, the type Galaxy probably had over a dozen of. Likewise.... Honmo, Mosquera and Shimada all absorbed terrible beatings against the rising Valero before all succumbing late fight. I just don't think he had quite the heavy hands that the tank like Galaxy had.
I never bought into Valero. He was a weight bully at super feather, and carried up moderate power + pretty good speed at lightweight. If he were to have continued to climb those values would have dipped to "average power" and "decent speed" at 140lbs, and north of there he gets mangled. Galaxy on the other hand, you watch him work and you just wince. Those were actual deadly weapons he was packing, under the wraps.
If you had to guess just from your years of experience, eyeballing up fighters... how big would you say Galaxy was at super fly? He was built like he had been chiseled out of a slab of granite, with massive bulging arms and back. Do you feel he was rehydrating to levels similar to what SRR is doing tonight, weighing in at 115 but coming in at nearly 140 pounds? I don't feel that Galaxy's weight cutting was as quite as extreme as SRR currently is, just from having a good look at him...
I think your both spot on about Valero he never really did beat anyone at the right level at the right time. I remember the Demarco fight and thinking at times Valero kinda looks frustrated like he doesn’t get why his thunder is working anymore. I guess I just kinda threw his name out there off the cuff without thinking.
I know it’s another kinda obvious one but what about Julian Jackson? He had some vicious one punch KOs with nasty looking after effects.
This has turned out to be a great thread. Thanks boran, you really know your stuff about Thai fighting and it's history, genuine specialist. I remember that Flea Man, who was also deeply into Thai boxing/MT, has always spoken highly of you in this regard. Galaxy was a physical monstrosity at super-fly, great strength, power and chin. Excellent straight left and could fight 15 at a pace carrying his power late. His competition was poor though and undersized in comparison to him, I really think he trod water with that belt when he had several very talented contemporaries who he didn't face when they were all facing each other and doing a similar thing to him, just with a different splinter title. In this regard I find him overrated in comparison. Orono, Kim and Contreras were the best he faced I reckon. Contreras was green, Orono was faded quite seriously if I'm not mistaken and Kim looked very small next to him. Khaokor is even more underrated Imo.
Thanks that's kind Tin Ribs. Interesting you mention Flea as he agrees with you totally. He always felt Khaosai was heavily overrated for the exact reasons you mentioned, which if you look at it objectively are spot on. One thing, I doubt he made the decision himself to duck people, those decisions of who he did and didn't fight would be solely made by his handlers. Flea Man almost didn't rate him at all. He's favourites were Venice Borkhorsor and Seanak Muangsurin. I just have a soft spot for Khaosai, I love watching him fight and he's a living legend over here, who is a funny personality outside the ring to. I agree Khaokor is very underrated and never ever gets mentioned in his own right unless in the same sentence as his brother. The same happens with Kongtoranee, Samart's brother who was an MT ATG but also not a bad boxer. He only had 14 bouts losing only twice, once to Khaosai who he decked and to Gilberto Roman. I also think there is a bit of a question mark over how Khakor's career finished was it due to a medical problem or was it "Muay Lom" which means take a dive. I think it really was a medical issue, it doesn't look like a dive. Although that was the golden age of fighting in Thailand, the business was totally controlled by the Thai mob and a few big name MT fighters had received lifetime bans. Was he politely asked not to come back? This content is protected
Fantastic posts, tin ribs and boranbkk. Thank you both. I actually have some rarely seen Khaokor footage of a fight fought on a literal Crocodile Farm that I think I'll probably post up and make a thread for later today...
I would say the Hawk's power and Galaxy's are definitely more in league with each other than either w/ Valero, in terms of devastating, physically waste-laying effect.
Thanks for the thread and your very knowledgeable input! Please do post the fight. I've been to that crocodile farm. It's in Samut Prakan, about 50 min outside Bangkok. Huge horrendous place with a giant artificial concrete lake with thousands and it really is that many crocs lying on top of each other. Animal cruelty in the west would close it down! Suicide is high in Thailand and this used to be an infamous spot to commit suicide by throwing your self from one of the many gangways that criss cross the lake. Can you imagine....
Th Thanks mate, great post again. I always liked Khaosai a bit more than Flea did but agreed with his central premise to a fair degree. I agree that it probably wasn't Galaxy's choice to skirt around fighting the other titleists, he probably would've faced anyone put in front of him and beaten a fair number. Cant knock a man for fighting to earn money even it affects his sporting legacy a bit. We all need to pay the bills. I understand that he's very well liked and popular and a good guy in general. Khaokor was more talented though and his win against Moon in the rematch dwarfs anything that his twin achieved in a single fight. Wonderful master class against a great opponent and a hugely undervalued win. The thing against Espinoza was outright strange, he looked like he just fainted/collapsed, which I think he did. Weight making perhaps? A real shame. I also rate Borkhorsor very highly, hammering Gonzalez, Salavarria and Rafa Herrera was some serious ****. Absolute mini tank of a fighter.
That's incredibly morbid but equally interesting. I had no idea the conditions were so terrible on alligator farms, I guess I imagined them in some kind of lagoon with plenty of space to be lazy and be watched by throngs of tourists all day... Then again I have seen similar footage of snake pits from the same parts of the world that clearly was outright animal abuse so I'm not actually surprised whatsoever. Was Samut Prakan a hot spot for fights back in the day? It seems like it would be a prime location to host fights but I can't recall ever seeing very many scheduled there on boxrec.