Khoren Gevor is ranked #4 at MW by ring magazine

he deserves that ranking!

 

I tend to agree with you,but wouldnt bet any big sum of money on Gevor against either Mundine and Sturm.

 

Middleweight is very weak at the moment. It will be stronger a few weeks from now when Winky and Williams will be ranked there. Gevor is okay, and he certainly deserves the spot considering the opposition he's faced, but take a look at the guys who have been rounding out the top 10 lately - fighters like Ray Joval, Marco Antonio Rubio, and Randy Griffin have been in the top 10, and I'd like to think that none of them is more than a gatekeeper. Lots of unknowns who have fought nobody are knocking on the door of the top 10. Hopefully a few of them turn out to be decent, but other than Golovkin (and down the road, Jacobs), I doubt that any of them are much better than what's out there right now.

 

What about Pirog,brickhaus? He seems to be a great talent with tons of firepower in his fists who is on the verge of making a lot of noise at middle weight.
He has been matched extremely toughly up now,but has passed all tests successfully and impressively.

 

Or do their rankings suck that much?

 

I can't claim to have seen enough of Pirog to make a good evaluation, although what he's done on paper at his age isn't all that impressive. He's already pushing 29, and his best win is against a guy who was dominated by Marco Antonio Rubio and barely got by Marcos Primera, and it appears that he was ok but not great as an amateur. I'd be much more excited if he was about 5 years younger, but he's already at peak age for a normal middleweight.

Until I see something to make me excited, he falls into that category of the guys who are building up records and who can probably be contenders in a weak division but wouldn't be able to hold their own in a strong division, like Macklin, Lorenzo, Spada, Quillin, etc. On paper, Zbik, Oral and Geale look more promising. I like Guererro a lot, but I suspect he'll end up at 154, and he's still very raw.

 

Middleweight is by far the weakest division in boxing.

 

Fair enough,brickhaus!:good

However,I disagree with you on his comp.
Pirog has fought excellent and teak tough opposition in his short pro career.
Kodzoev beat Jerry Elliot and former world champ Tatevosyan.Toybonbayev beat Tsurkan,Oba Carr,Pestriaev, Joel Mayo,and lost split decisons to Keith Holmes and Ian Gardner.
British based teak tough cookie Ajetovic is a true test for any fighter who aims to bigger goals.
Chirkov is a capable Russian operator who can hold his own against quite a few of the top30 at middle weight.
Last but not least Pirog also beat former world champ Tatevosjan.
Very good scalps for a fighter with just 13 pro fights in my opinion.

 

Middleweight is that weak. Not that Gevor isn't a good fighter, he is. But if Abraham didn't get that late KO, the fight would have been close on points, it wasn't that good a performance by Abraham at all. Abraham isn't going to get the KO every fight. And when he doesn't get it, he looks DAMN vulnerable to an outpointing.

 

Odo - I don't think Tatevosyan is a former world champion.

I will agree that Golovkin and Pirog and Korobov will do very well when they get there.

Brits Matt Macklin (who just stopped British champ Wayne Elcock in 3 rds) and Darren Barker will do well.

John Duddy can go to 154 where it's safe(r). Andy Lee has promise, if he can iron out his ama style flaws.

Gevor probably deserves his ranking. A #4 ranking means he is the 5th best - hardly outrageous given that he pushed a prime Abraham hard, and stopped Asikainen.

Middleweight will be fine. Pavlik at the top, then Abraham, then good Euro level Asikainen and Sylvester, Mundine moving down, the good Brits closing and and the 3 big mature prospects ready to make a statement.

 

Didnt Tatevosjan dethrone Armand Kranjc a decade ago?
Must look it up! My gut feeling somehow tells me that you are right in saying that Tatevosjan never captured a world title.

 

Looks like Kranjc wasn't champ at the time; i think he'd lost the title to Harry Simon. I rate tatevosyan for wins over Gogiya (went on to win EBU title) and Markussen. He's certainly lost to some future champs - Karmazin, Bute, Froch.

 

You are right,rumour!

Harry Simon dethroned Kranjc. The former Swedish based Croat world champ then lost his next outing to a ring to Tatevosyan.

 

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