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So Usyk defends the clutch better than Evander? How so?

As far as looking at how both men fight, that's exactly what I do in H2H matches.

I see Wlad clutching & leaning to a win over Usyk, I see Holyfield taking Wlad's clutch away & busting him up on the inside, KO 7 or 8.

 

When the truth has been told, you can only repeat it. HGH is expensive, dangerous and illegal. If Holy could have done it natually, he would have. He couldn't.

 

You have no idea what he could & couldn't do.

When you speak your opinion as fact, it makes you look unreasonable. Do you think anyone on here trusts your opinion as fact?


How do you know this stuff about Evander, personal friend or something?

 

Why can´t Clay be voted out?

 

We never saw what he could do naturally. What we saw is what a doped up Evan Fields can do.

 

What's that got to do with my question?

 

Lol, everything. You have no idea what he could and couldn't do when not doped.

That's his point, we only know what he could do doped to the gills.

 

Catchweight said Holy couldn't do it naturally, My question was 'how do you know this'.

 

Which is why I asked how can someone know for a fact Holy couldn't have bulked up naturally as much is possible and beaten Wlad

 

How do you know he could?

We know what we know, and that's that he could do it loaded with PEDs.

Everything else is just speculation and he's as entitled to his opinion that he couldn't as much as your entitled to think that he could.

Fact is, the Holy we do know, was doping.

As was everyone back then, and probably now too.

 

because if he could have done it naturally, he would have.

 

I never said Evander could beat Wlad for a fact. Catchweight stated factually Evander couldn't do it without peds - get it now?

 

And how do you know this 'fact'?

 

No. But that's ok. He's entitled to express his opinion, factually or not.

I don't think even the loaded to the eyeballs Holyfield has a chance against a prime Wlad but that just me.

 

An opinion, stated as a fact, should be as easy to prove as the fact as far as I'm concerned.