Kid Gavilan vs Floyd Mayweather Jr @147lbs

The Kid is one of my all time favorites but PBF would be too much for him and win by UD.

 

Exactly. :good

Roy was just superior physically and talent wise to everyone he fought. Once he couldnt out work, outmove and outpower his opponents, his defensive liabilities became apparent. Go to boxing scene. com and look at his compubox stats. His opponents are plus 2 against him.

 

Off the back foot? Do it right the first time and you wouldn't have to do it again. And yes, it can make a difference. And again, for the final time, I asked for numbers of

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. And if you use that time frame as Jones prime, they didn't use 10 of Jones' fights, 6 non title fights and 4 title fights they seemed to have "missed". That makes a huge difference.

And if Mayweather has only 18 title fights, thats fine. But how do we know which title fights were used for Jones? They could have simply tossed out the ones with the lowest or highest connect percentages. So while "naturally" they would take 18 of Jones' fights, they should say which fights.

I already did the research, and it says accurate numbers don't exist, and I already posted that article.

And I'm not lucky....learn to read. I said PRIME, so why would I care about numbers past his prime?

 

Thanks for proving my point. Jones was -20 at the end of 2002. He has had only 7 fights since then, but it has made a huge difference. Now you want to argue the point of whether those missing fights can make a difference in data?

 

Why not just his title fights? Title fights would be more indicative of class then non-title fights against scrubs.

Im the only one that has bothered to present numbers here. You should come back with something if you wanna actually make up any of the embarrassment you suffered so far. Those are the figures I found, 18 title fights for 18 title fights, Floyd is better. If you think these 4 title fights you keep talking about would make up anything significant towards the huge 6% advantage in Floyds favor, I'd be willing to see. Put up or shut up *****.

 

WTF are you even talking about? Get off Floyd's nuts. Roy is a full level above Floyd.

Seriously, it's a simple as watching them against similar competition. Roy would've handled someone like Hatton like he did Pazienza in his prime. Or someone like DLH like he did Virgil Hill.

 

There's no embarassment except from your side you schmuck, you're attached to Floyd's nuts. What can I expect from a boxing-scene fruitcake?

 

God I hate you trolls. Let Floyd continue having trouble with B level fighters in his prime, and go watch Roy dominate A level fighters in his.

 

You really are an idiot. Roy Jones lost 3 of his last fights. With his 1st fight against Tarver being contraversial. So of course it would have a heavy impact on his compubox numbers.

Unless he held his opponents in those 4 fights you keep citing to less then 5 punches per round, there is no way he makes up 6 percentage points against Floyd.

Again put up or shut up. Show me some stats that contradict mine.

 

Lol wipe the coke off your lips *****. Roy was the better boxer then Floyd, you cant teach god given ability, but in the defensive area look at the figures *****. Floyd all the way. He even pwns your boy Sweet crack aswell. What you gotta say about that? :rofl

 

He's talking in his prime not his whole career. I assume once PBF got old and continued to fight, he wouldn't count those fighters either.


But The first fight with Tarver was clear as day no controversy whatsoever.

 

Title fights WOULD be more indicative of class. However, since Jones fought better competition in his title fights overall, then it wouldn't be an accurate comparison IMO.

You posted numbers, and for that I applaud you. However, they didn't answer the question I originally asked. I already presented an article that said accurate numbers don't exist overall. That is the reason I can't find more accurate numbers. I already said your numbers are accurate, they simply don't cover the scope of the question.

I don't feel embarrased kid, it's a message board. Even if I turn out to be wrong, I would just move on.

 

Lmao name one B level fighter Floyd has ever had trouble with. His opponents average 5 punches per round. His career title fight compux numbers is plus 23 punches landed. Get off his nuts *****. Go watch some old sweet crack tapes.

 

I'll go with Gavilan decision. Why do so many think Floyd will knock him out Gavilan had one of the greatest chins ever only being dropped twice in 143 fights by Basilio and Ike who hit much harder then Floyd. He went 25 rounds with Sugar Ray Robinson without being dropped and when past his prime he fought Lausse (one of the hardest hitting middleweights ever) and never got dropped.

 

I have to say your punchstats are ****ing lame, otherwise Castillo clearly "pwned" Floyd. What you gotta say about that?

Roy was a better boxer, flat out. that is what I'm talking about. If someone runs around the ring and doesn't get hit as much, that doesn't make then a better defensive fighter. I am not saying that's what Floyd does, but his style is based almost purely on defense, whereas Roy was an offensive fighter, one who managed to hold an opponent without a punch in a round where he was the offensive aggressor. Floyd could never do that.

Wipe the coke off my lips? Ok, go beat your woman.:good