Kid Gavilan vs Sugar Ray Leonard

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  1. TheSouthpaw

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  2. DaveK

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    Wisdom.
     
  3. Hands of Iron

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    If they fight three times, it's likely 1-1-1 for both. All razor thin.
     
  4. hookfromhell

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    This is my thread haha. thanks for reviving it. I dont think anyone
    could dominate SRL in three rounds. He was very versatile. Was kid
    even more versatile? more experience and he fought the best WW ever.
     
  5. Hands of Iron

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    :yep
     
  6. DaveK

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    It's a great fight, but I have a feeling it's Leonard who sways judges with his harder punching and landing more than he's receiving (probably).
     
  7. Hands of Iron

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    :-o :jjj

    How do you see a 15-rounder with GGG (Gerardo Gonzalez Gavilan) and Thomas Hearns going? People on ESB who actually believe Gavilan had the stamina, chin, fiery work rate and moxy to stand-up to and wear Hearns down to a late stoppage:

    Myself
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  8. janwalshs

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    Leonard would pull his cute tricks that always seem to impress the judges so much. He pulls out a solid decision.
     
  9. DaveK

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    I think a well-prepared Hearns beats any welter ever. The Hearns of the first Leonard fight I could see Gavilan doing that to, but even then, I don't think Gavilan has the power to change the fight around like Leonard did.

    Consider this: as tough as Gavilan was and with the chin he had, he was dropped by Basilio and Williams, a lightweight. Hearns was every bit as accurate and much harder-punching than either one of those guys.

    The flip side of that is he went 2 hard fights with Robinson who was every bit as good overall a puncher as Hearns, if not as hard-hitting, just as accurate and effective. He didn't fall for Ray, he probably wouldn't fall for Hearns.

    I could see Gavilan pounding out a decision but probably not a stoppage. I'm not married to that notion though.
     
  10. Hands of Iron

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    Definitely not at the point Leonard did, he'd need to get started earlier for sure.

    Part of the flip is that he was never KO'ed, stopped or beat into submission either. I wouldn't put it past Hearns to score a KD, but I think Gavilan has enough to back up the notion he was one of, if not the hardest guy to stop in division history. Close to, anyway.

    Nor am I the original prediction. :deal
     
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    I agree, although that Leonard-Hearns had a good pace and alot of tough punches landed both ways from the start. I doubt Gavilan has what it takes to stop him, but I totally agree Gavilan proves his reputation correct as a tough cookie.
     
  12. Hands of Iron

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    FWIW, I agree that Hearns probably beats anybody at 147 ever over 12 rounds and plenty in a 15 too. It's a bit unfair and cliche he always loses fantasy fights due to the same faults (I say stamina, not necessarily chin) over 15, sort of like Napoles being easy to cut. It'll be cited nonetheless. :lol: :verysad
     
  13. DaveK

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    I agree completely.
     
  14. Hands of Iron

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    If it's any consolation at all Dave, Hearns is always 'up on the cards' when it all falls apart. Alledgedly. :lol: :!:
     
  15. DaveK

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    Invariably.