Kid Gavilan

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  1. ETM

    ETM I thought I did enough to win. Full Member

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    I have Kid Gavilan 3rd. I could see an arguement for 4th but no lower than that.

    H2H Gavilan/Leonard is a tossup IMO. Napoles was awesome. I would love to see both of those fights with each man at their best.
     
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  2. LittleRed

    LittleRed Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Hey-O!
     
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  3. Hands of Iron

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    Welterweight Title Fights. He was apparently allergic to fighting non-top contenders.

    07/49: Ray Robinson L-UD15
    05/51: Johnny Bratton W-UD15
    08/51: Billy Graham W-SD15
    02/52: Bobby Dykes W-SD15
    07/52: Gil Turner W-TKO11
    10/52: Billy Graham W-UD15
    02/53: Chuck Davey W-TKO10
    09/53: Carmen Basilio W-SD15
    11/53: Johnny Bratton W-UD15
    10/54: Johnny Saxton L-UD15 (Blah)
     
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  4. Hands of Iron

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    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=imPJLHLt5EM&feature=youtube_gdata_player"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=imPJLHLt5EM&feature=youtube_gdata_player[/ame]


    ^^ Gavilan and Arguello stole the show on that documentary
     
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  5. Quick Cash

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    Well, the point is if he is on equal footing to men larger than he, then that only serves to put him over the top in his own weight class.
     
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  6. Flea Man

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    I agree. Hence why a few us seem to have him so high I guess :good
     
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  7. lufcrazy

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    wrong post for me to quote but i couldn't be bothered scrolling back up.

    Do you really think Napoles skin is that much of a factor?

    By that I mean, minus the skin would you pick Napoles?
     
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  8. Flea Man

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    No, I wouldn't pick him anyway but any chance he has will be negated when his face turns to mush. It cost him against lesser fighters. Skillswise Napoles is faultless but if it could cost him against guys who weren't brilliant ten it would in some other instances, like it would against Gavilan.

    Wasn't a factor in some of his best wins though. Against Gavilan it'd be very close. Close enough that Gavilan would shred him IMO.

    Anyway, LMR all the way.
     
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  9. Hands of Iron

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    :bump
     
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  10. ripcity

    ripcity Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    1. Ray Leonard
    2. Ray Robinson
    3. Thomas Hearns
    4. Emile Griffith
    5. Floyd Mayweather
    6. Kid Gavilan
     
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  11. Flea Man

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    **** off. Just ****. Off. Please die. While listening to some 'Somba music'.

    Or explain yourself. Not that you could ever explain your way out of that.
     
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  12. ETM

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    He beat Turner, Basilio and I believe Graham in their hometowns. I think Gil Turner was undefeated at the time the Kid stopped him. Impressive run.
     
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  13. Hands of Iron

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    I LOVE the Turner fight. :deal Yes, he was undefeated.
     
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  14. Hands of Iron

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    Delete
     
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  15. Flea Man

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    Gil Turner is so underrated it breaks my heart.
     
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