No way will Kimbo ever be Elite XC Heavyweight champion. I don't think he could beat Brett Rogers much less Bigfoot Silva. Kimbo is a joke.
That's what I can't understand, why didn't they feed a couple of stiffs to Lesnar to get his confidence & reputation up? Instead they throw him in with a great submission wrestling/former HW champion, Frank Mir! What did everyone expect to happen? I gaurantee that Mir would submit Kimbo if they fought tomorrow.
Because his in the UFC. For all intents and purposes thats the big leagues. You cant work your way up in the UFC you come ready to go or ready to fail. If Lesnar wanted to build a rep he should have joined TUF or one of the feeder Orgs. With the amount of money at stake from his namesake alone you think Dana would let that happen? The mans a business man first.
I don't know why Kimbo is getting this much hate. The guy is a class act and i haven't heard him hype himself up as something he's not. Blame Gary Shaw not Kimbo. The ref seemed a bias to me but its not as bad as everyone is making him out to be. I recall he did once stand them up when he shouldn't have but people are acting everytime kimbo was on the ground he stood them up. The stoppage was premature no doubt but not as bad as i intially thought. After i seen the replay Thompson would have been laid out with the next shot that hit him. That said i don't know why threads are popping out how fedor would kill Kimbo thats obvious and is pure hate. I think everyone knows Kimbo is not an elite world class mma guy. However i do think he can improve and become a fairly good he is new to the game.
You post some interesting things Scurla, but in this case, I have to disagree with you entirely. Here's why: Not giving Lesnar a few easy matchups was a terrible business decision that I find borderline indefensible. If there were MMA textbooks for promoting a fighter, that decision would be a classic case study of what not to do. If Lesnar had gone against Kimbo's level of opposition to start his MMA career, he'd have gotten much more buzz for the organization and continued to generate cash for both himself and the UFC. By putting him into a terrible style matchup against a former champion in his first match, the crossover potential of Lesnar was killed before it got a chance to begin. If the same thing happened in boxing, the finger would be getting pointed squarely at that fighters' management and the promoter. I, for one, am not going to apply a double standard and pretend it wasn't a terrible decision on the UFC's part. And, it's not as if they've never spoonfed fighters subpar (and cheap) competition before to help their fighters develop and generate some positive hype. Mismatched matchups like Arlovski vs Buentello (which was even a title fight) happen for just that reason. As far as Kimbo himself, I don't blame him whatsoever for cashing in. It's not his fault internet fanboys think he's the baddest sumbitch on the planet and his promoters are capitalizing on that. In fact, for all the **** being said about fatman Shaw, it can't be argued that he's done a hell of a job advancing Kimbo's career and value. Given what he's got to work with, it's been borderline perfect- he got an internet fighter headlining on prime time, free TV by giving him enough time with coaching to develop a little bit, and enough easy opposition to look good against to make him look like a monster. That is the very definition of great management to even get a guy like Kimbo in that position. Compare that to how UFC hung Lesnar out to dry, and you get a vast contrast in the right and wrong way to promote a new fighter (even if they have limitations) who has mainstream potential.
pretty much nail on the head but he's not a nobody he's definitely tougher than the average dude much tougher.... .....this might be the first time (in the US) that an athlete is being overhyped because of their marketability/draw and they're not white. So in that sense it's cool....
It happens. In the NFL, Reggie Bush and Mike Vick are good examples of dudes with endorsements out the ass before they did anything professionally and made more than guys better than them doing it. For the fight game, they really milked Tyson near the end of his career more on myth than what he was actually capable of. Still love Iron Mike, though.
The stoppage was questionable and not stopping it after round two was also questionable. Both fighters gave it there all. As for a disgrace no he's not a disgrace but he shouldn't get more than four figure paydays IMO.
Dude i wholly agree. BUT Dana`s stance is the UFC is the big leagues and thus NO ONE no matter what the name gets an easy ride. Within 2 losses any fighter can be gone the rotations are that quick. They have loyalty to no fighters whatsoever other than the ones that make them money on a regular basis. I know what i would have done with Lesnar but im not Dana White and i dont see things his way. My point was merely to highlight the way the UFC thinks.
Kimbo couldnt even finish the interview he was that out of breath. Either way as i far as im concerned i hope he rides this gravy train to it derails because id do the same dam thing.
absolutely. Brock would take him down with ease seconds into the fight, and probably finish him with gnp in under 2 minutes.
