Kimbo vs Buentello

I'm not as impressed with Lesnar as a physical specimen as you. He looks very stiff, you cant have good boxing mechanics with that build. He also has about as much nouse on the ground as Kimbo (nil) - he should be able to GnP, but thats about it. I agree he takes this fight though :good

 

Lesnar doesn't have any ground game, he's a wrestler. I know he was good at that - but thats not 'ground game' thats 'getting the fight to the ground game.' I dont know if this is a semantic thing but where I'm from JJ and Sambo is referred to as groundgame (ie doing something on the ground), whereas wrestling is take-downs/take down defense.

What i'm saying is I dont believe lesnar has much if any scope for improvement, he cant strike with that build and it seriosuly hampers any devolpment in submissions.

As for Frank Mir...come on the guy is a wreck, everyone looks great against him these days, Pe de Pano pounded the **** out of him in what I think was his first real fight in mma. What Bob Sapp did agaisnt Nog (obviously a far better fighter than any version of Mir, especially this prematurely shot one) was more impressive than what Lesnar did 'vs' Mir. I know Lesnars 1 dimension is better than say Kimbos one dimension, but thats essentially what he is and will stay, a big strong uncomplicated guy who can GnP well.

 

While it doesn't transfer as much to MMA as other grappling styles, alot of stuff does make the transition, the anaconda choke is basically a gator role that you walk around, and alot of other front headlock positions are natural for wrestlers (lindlands guillotine), also controlling somebodys back is obviously going to come naturally.

If you take somebody with that high of a wrestling pedigree they are going to have alot to start with and progress infintely faster, look at mark kerr winning the adcc, jake shields, matt hughes, mike van arsdale's grappling career. It gives you a huge advantage over no background, thats for sure.

 

first time poster here with the MMA and wanted to know are we talking about Kimbo the street fighter who fuaght in backyards?

Have not seen or heard anything about him for a while(coming from Australia we are a bit behind the times)is it true he is having a go in the cage?If so how has he gone and is there ant footage?

 

Kimbo would KTFO of Buentello as well.

 

I highly doubt it
Buentello has been after that fight for awhile. I've seen him post about it on the underground forum.

 

I don't .

Buentello is a slugger, not much on the ground or on submissions.....perfect opponent for a learning and improving Kimbo..who at the least is a deadly striker.

 

Was pretty skeptical about Kimbo. I would be interested in seeing him vs Buentello. Great call on that matchup window.

 

As far as I know, 'ground game' as always referred to JJ/SAMBO or derivatives thereof. The main translation from wrestling into mma is takedowns/takedown defense/control.

But thanks for the daily dose of arrogance :good

 

throw kimbo's ass in there with tim sylvia and see what happens. he's getting lucky that they are feeding him old guys who are far past it. lesnar will smash him up fast. and for his meantion on tyson he deserves a beating.. i think to call out a guy who was one of the greatest of all time when he's old and through is just sad.. i would love to see him say something in front of the emelineko brothers.