Kirkland overtrained?

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  1. Leonit

    Leonit Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I agree with you but to his credit he put a nice combination to put Molina down. My guess is that Molina was going to recuperate and to take at least one of the last rounds to win comfortably.
     
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  2. Reppin501

    Reppin501 The People's Champ Full Member

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    Agreed, I like Kirkland but Martinez would **** him up IMO.
     
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  3. WildStyle

    WildStyle J.C. Penny's belt $2.99 banned

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    No, he just sucks.
     
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  4. Reppin501

    Reppin501 The People's Champ Full Member

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    I don't know about that, Anne "unleashed" James and he was a different fighter in the 9th-10th rounds, Molina was almost dropped prior to the knock down his legs were very shaky and Kirkland was going for broke.
     
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  5. dodong

    dodong >>PACQUIAO Full Member

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    "unleashed" = "go ghetto"... there's no need to be PC here.
     
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  6. Leonit

    Leonit Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    What you say makes me hate the anticlimactic ending even more! **** I just wanted to see the real result even though I bet for Molina I respect Kirkland. Moilna was just a horrible match up for him and anyone not called Martinez or Canelo.
     
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  7. J_Grizzy

    J_Grizzy Active Member Full Member

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    198 lbs a month before the fight, goddamn... well that would explain alot. Can't anyone see why Molina doesn't get enough wins, amd usually gets a draw or "robbery"? His eay of "winning" is completely unfavorable to a judge and fans for that matter. Imagine you're a judge, your ringside and you notice Molina initiating a clinch 80% of the time. I would have a hard time rewarding a fighter for that. Nonetheless, while it seemed like Kirkland didn't have the same snap on his punches, he still marked up Molina's face well.
     
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  8. boxon123

    boxon123 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Go and read about how Philly gym wars burnt fighters out. Then go watch tapes of Kirkland Sparring. Leaving in the gym may be the answer!
     
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  9. catnthehat

    catnthehat Pac doesn't deserve 50/50 Full Member

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    Kirkland is not a very good fighter by any means. Limited skill and not versatile. Lacks a chin and was mauled by a journeyman Ishida.
     
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  10. KnuckleUp99

    KnuckleUp99 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    He wasn't slower.....he just didn't have the right set of tools for the job. Kirkland was in shape and had energy to go 12, but he couldn't handle someone who showed layers to their game. It wasn't pretty but it was very effective for the raw, basic style that James has always exhibited. No over training....just not the training in the right areas.
     
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