Kirkland's Power/Up Jab was very impressive

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  1. Ring Master

    Ring Master The Originator Full Member

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    Boy was I wrong.

    Kirkland's jab was excellent...He constantly snapped Angulo's head back violently with that Power up jab.

    Was Angulo in bad shape or did he just never recover his legs from those brutal left crosses he was eating combined witht the straight left body shot Kirkland was hitting him with? I think some are not accounting for the body work Kirkland was putting in. At some points you could see Angulo pulling both forearms in front of his abdominal to try and block the shot.

    Kirkland was showing some pretty good angles and had a nice punch selection also...He was really mixing it up to the head and body and showed some decent subtle defensive manuvers.

    Even prior to James getting dropped he came out and pushed Angulo back with shots to the body and the head, James squared up when attemping a body shot and that's when he got caught with a hard counter right hand (The one I thought would end the fight) But James showed he has a beard b/c he ate some shots while being on ***** street and was able to withstand. Some people want to say James doesn't have a chin...I disagree, He just puts himself in a position to get touched and it does. This fight is a clear indication that James can recover from being hurt and the Ishido fight was just a case of him being unprepared.

    Props to Ann Wolfe who worked on and implemented the Power/Up Jab in Kirkland's arsenal. I knew she could condition a fighter and she also showed some technical savy.

    Regarding a rematch, It is not safe to assume Angulo would be the same after this fight. Angulo is not the same fighter backing up and Kirkland seems to have the mindset and power to always back him up. With the exception of the knock down this was not a very competitive fight. Angulo always knew Kirkland was a beast since the Gary Shaw Production days and I don't believe he was not in good shape coming in to the bout.
     
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  2. leocouture

    leocouture Chinchecker KILLA!!!!!! G Full Member

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    Kirkland a G.

    Wolfe a OG.
     
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  3. dwighttsharpe

    dwighttsharpe Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Agreed.

    I also think his defense was relatively good. Besides that knockdown shot, Angulo really did not land many shots to Kirklands face/head. Even during the flurry, he was slipping most of the punches.

    Can't belive how unmarked he was.
     
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  4. EpsilonAxis

    EpsilonAxis HNIC Full Member

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    the power jab is great, he throws it like a power punch.

    But at the same time, his jab isn't very versatile. I mean, the point of the jab is that everything gets set up off of it. you use it to stick something in your opponents face before your big shot. Kirkland uses it AS the big shot.

    Kirkland had a great fight, no doubt, but I think there's still a lot of flaws in his game.
     
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  5. Ring Master

    Ring Master The Originator Full Member

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    Yeah I saw him slipping shots going backwards...
     
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  6. Ring Master

    Ring Master The Originator Full Member

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    i thought he set up straight lefts to the head and body off the jab. maybe not in combination but Alfredo had to defend against it so it left him open for the cross.
     
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  7. JMP

    JMP Champion Full Member

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    Kirkland is still very flawed and his chin can be cracked, but I saw some nice improvements from him. I really liked what I saw on Saturday.
     
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  8. Pimp C

    Pimp C Too Much Motion Full Member

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    Kirkland looked good besides the knockdown. He was slipping punches going to the body and using his jab.
     
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  9. Ring Master

    Ring Master The Originator Full Member

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    Yeah i still think boxers with height will give him problems b/c of the range. But it was good to see some improvements.
     
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  10. J Griz 757

    J Griz 757 Arturo "Thunder" Gatti Full Member

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    Good for you for manning up and admitting when you're wrong, not too many do that on here any more, props.

    You were deff almost right with the right hand ending it though, but where most of us were wrong was in that Kirkland had a better chin, and conditioning that expected, mixed with Angulo making the mistake of punching himself out.

    I give Kirkland and Wolfe full credit on being completely prepared for that war.
     
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  11. shimmy

    shimmy Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Its too bad the damn mics weren't working in the ring so we could really hear the thud of the punches. Best war of the year and you can't hear the damn punches! ****ing place had a Fischer Price sound system.
     
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  12. Azzer85

    Azzer85 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Kirklands chin is still questionable, but its more due carelessly rushing in IMO.

    What he did show, was great heart and very good recuperative skills AND a good gameplan, all against a very good opponent.
     
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  13. lewishamboy

    lewishamboy Styles Impetuous Full Member

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    Kirkland is a ****ing beast...can't wait to watch this guy in the big fights
     
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  14. lewishamboy

    lewishamboy Styles Impetuous Full Member

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    You know that! Buffer was fuming!
     
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  15. FilipMNE

    FilipMNE Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    He improved his boxing skills, defense is bad but he boxed very nice behind that jab, he is much better since he reunited with Ann.
     
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