**** Kirk's Championships 2010 ****

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by kirk, Dec 29, 2009.


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  1. o_money

    o_money Boxing Junkie banned

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    Thanks Kirk....I've waffled back and forth on this fight sooo many times that sometimes its hard to tell what I'm think. I was also picking Froch to begin with....I probably still think he's going to win but believing he's going to win and thinking he's going to win are two different things....and right now I just don't believe.

    Just to show you how much of a 180 degree turn I've done on this fight here's a post I made about a month ago on the way I saw the fight playing out at the time. You'll laugh your ass off cause its pretty much exactly the opposite of what I think now.....

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    Just watched the whole Froch AA press conference and was plesently entertained. After seeing the size of Froch relative to AA I have to say the people that believe Froch is too big for AA might have a very good point. Froch certainly seemed both wider and taller.

    As far as my break down of the fight goes you can make a very good case for Froch being the best boxer that AA has ever faced. Additionally, Froch is probably the biggest fighter AA has ever faced, he is probably the strongest fighter AA has ever faced, he is probably the hardest hitting fighter AA has ever faced, he probably has more stamina then anyone AA has ever faced and mentally he is probably the most couragous fighter AA has ever faced and the smartest fighter AA has ever faced....

    AA is probably the cleverest fighter, the best defensive fighter and the hardest hitting fighter Froch has ever faced....

    If your following my logic you can see where I am going with this....I see AA as being the fighter with the most to over come in this fight.

    Classically speaking Froch is the better boxer and if this was an amatuer bought he would be the more likely to box at range, pile up points and win the rounds. So based on styles he should be able to lead this fight on points for the majourity of the figth.

    The big task for Froch is for him to avoid getting worn down and deconstructed the way many AA opponents have been before. If you go back to my original assessment of strengths and weaknesses you see that the only big thing that Carl needs to work on is avoiding getting hit with the big bomb. In this means spending his training camp practicing 1) not stepping back into a left hook 2) not ducking the left hook only to run into a straight right hand and 3) give AA very few opportunities to counter punch him when AA squares up against the ropes.

    Yes with Froch's hands down style asking him to become a defensive genius in one training camp is a lot to ask. But it is the only thing he has to do to own all the intagibles. And if you give a world class fighter a whole training camp to work on something he can usually be very prepared come fight night. No, I do not expect him to be Pernell Whitaker come fight night. But matching skill sets is not a game of absolutes its "shades of grey" and I expect the Carl Froch that shows up to fight AA to be closer to the "I can avoid most of your stuff" shade then the "I haven't got a bloody clue where the punches are coming from" shade. If you catch my drift."

    :lol:

    Like I said man I talk a good game but if I'm being honest I really got no freakin clue whats going to happen....just hope its a good fight thats all.
     
    o_money, Nov 24, 2010
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  2. bladerunner

    bladerunner El Intocable Full Member

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    Matthew Hatton UD
    Hozumi Hasegawa UD
    Andre Berto KO
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    Ward UD
    Froch UD
    Celestino Caballero KO
    Robert Helenius TKO
    Nkosinathi Joyi UD
    Chris John UD
     
    bladerunner, Nov 24, 2010
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  3. Badlok

    Badlok Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Nice way to end the year! i'll make my pick this week-end :good

    BTW the TBA for David Lemieux fight on the third will be Pernell Gates ... Lemieux was already on the card before the WBC ask for Lemieux-Rubio (April ) So GYM try to set Lemieux-Rubio for December 3th and had to find an opponent with 2 weeks notice .

    all this to say that Pit-bull will have another KO1 here :yep
     
    Badlok, Nov 24, 2010
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  4. jordan1

    jordan1 Juan Lopez #1 Full Member

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    Ward TKO
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  5. BigBone

    BigBone Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Up-dates! Up-dates! Up-dates!

    I wanna see myself as the #1 challenger, not sure I'm still going to be when the weekend is over.

    Kirk, you can do it!
     
    BigBone, Nov 25, 2010
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  6. FIGHTER2R

    FIGHTER2R Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Hatton ud. Hasegawa ud. Ao ud.
     
    FIGHTER2R, Nov 25, 2010
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  7. Tackleberry

    Tackleberry The Reverse Somersault! Full Member

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    Tackleberry, Nov 25, 2010
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  8. Robney

    Robney ᴻᴼ ᴸᴼᴻᴳᴲᴿ ᴲ۷ᴵᴸ Full Member

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    :lol:
     
    Robney, Nov 25, 2010
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  9. kirk

    kirk l l l Staff Member

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    Happy Thanksgiving guys :lol: Yes, updates will be here, but will come tomorrow morning. I have most of them done already actually but wont have the time today (cuz of thanksgiving) to finish them all. If I do put them up, it will be a tad later and wont have the wagers counted into it nor fight pages. We will see though.

    Have a good thanksgiving, and if its snowy where youre at, drive safe :good
     
    kirk, Nov 25, 2010
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  10. kirk

    kirk l l l Staff Member

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    :lol::yep:good
     
    kirk, Nov 25, 2010
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  11. Robney

    Robney ᴻᴼ ᴸᴼᴻᴳᴲᴿ ᴲ۷ᴵᴸ Full Member

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    Happy Thanksgiving Kirk (that's the turkey/mashed potato holiday right?!). :good

    Looking forward to tommorrow...
     
    Robney, Nov 25, 2010
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  12. kirk

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    11/25 - Jonathan Victor Barros vs. Irving Berry
    11/25 - Brad Solomon vs. Vitaliy Demyanenko
    11/26 - Matthew Hatton vs. Roberto Belge
    11/26 - Juan Carlos Burgos vs. Hozumi Hasegawa
    11/26 - Vitali Tajbert vs. Takahiro Ao
    11/27 - Juan Manuel Marquez vs. Michael Katsidis
    11/27 - Andre Berto vs. Freddy Hernandez
    11/27 - Celestino Caballero vs. Jason Litzau
    11/27 - Andre Ward vs. Sakio Bika
    11/27 - Carl Froch vs. Arthur Abraham
    11/27 - Robert Helenius vs. Attila Levin
    11/27 - Nkosinathi Joyi vs. Katsunari Takayama
    12/01 - Chris John vs. Ferdnando David Saucedo

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    I KNOW THIS FIGHT HAS CHANGED BUT I STILL GOT SOLOMON BY TKO HATTON UD HOZUMI SD TAKAHIRO UD MARQUEZ TKO BERTO UD CABALLERO TKO WARD UD ABRAHAM TKO HELENIUS TKO
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    barros tko demyanenko ko hatton ud hasegawa ko tajbert tko katsidis sd berto tko caballero ud ward ud froch md helenius ud takayama ko john ud
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    Demyanenko SD Hatton UD Hasegawa TKO Ao SD Marquez SD Berto UD Cabellero TKO Ward UD Abraham KO Helenius TKO John UD
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