Kirks Championships 2013

kirk · Jul 16, 2013

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Olusegun UD Bey UD Scott UD Burgos T/KO Ruiz Jr UD Gradovich UD Estrada UD Figueroa T/KO Thurman SD Berto MD Joe Hanks UD

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Molina MD Godoy TKO Frampton KO Chisora KO Gomez UD Kameda TKO Browne KO Ruiz KO Gradovich UD Melindo UD Figueroa KOThurman KO Soto Karass UD

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kirk · Jul 16, 2013

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kirk · Jul 16, 2013

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7/20 - Dereck Chisora vs. Malik Scott - 10x3

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7/23 - Koki Kameda vs. John Mark Apolinario - 12x3 WBA World Bantamweight Title
7/25 - Lucas Browne vs. Richard Towers - 12x3 Commonwealth Heavyweight Title Eliminator (Australia FOX)

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7/27 - Andy Ruiz Jr vs. Joe Hanks - 10x3
7/27 - Evgeny Gradovich vs. Mauricio Javier Munoz - 12x3 IBF Featherweight Title (HBO)
7/27 - Juan Francisco Estrada vs. Milan Melindo - 12x3 WBO & WBA Super World Flyweight Titles (HBO)
7/27 - Omar Figueroa vs. Nihito Arakawa - 12x3 Interim WBC Lightweight Title (Showtime)
7/27 - Keith Thurman vs. Diego Gabriel Chaves - 12x3 Interim WBA World Welterweight Title (Showtime)
7/27 - Andre Berto vs. Jesus Soto Karass - 12x3 (Showtime

kirk · Jul 16, 2013

This might come back to bite me in the ass, I should probably go with the favorite.... and by all means, I could see Ajose being too active, and too physical for Lundy, but..... Im gonna go with Lundy squeaking out a close, could go either way type decision, for a few reasons.

We will see.... :-(

Lundy MD

kirk · Jul 16, 2013

Molina UD wide

DemolitionDan · Jul 16, 2013

Hello everybody. As some may know I've had some computer problems that has prevented from coming on here and various websites. Keeping this long story short I decided to download firefox. I had been using google chrome for awhile after using internet explorer which went to **** as well. But, anyway, I downloaded firefox, am using that right now, and it's like a whole new computer. Finally, I can have two tabs open (wow!) at the same time. It's pretty amazing. I don't know how long this fast speed will last before this internet firefox thing will take a dump. So, anyway, to celebrate this glorious day I'm just going to ramble on about some of the fights coming up. Hope you enjoy. :good

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Dereck Chisora vs. Malik Sco
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DemolitionDan · Jul 16, 2013

Andre Berto vs. Jesus Soto Karass: Andre Berto by TKO

On the 27th of July boxing will finally be back on a major network on a Saturday night. This month has been rough in that regard. Not much to look forward to on a Saturday night. Now, while this definitely isn't the best card nor is the best main event...at least it is something. On paper this looks like a very one sided fight. Everything points to Andre Berto winning, winning big, and more than likely winning by stoppage. But, as we've seen this year some fights that have been one sided on paper hasn't played out that way in the ring. So, we'll see what happens, but I definitely like Berto here.

I don't rate Andre Berto all that highly, but stylistically he seems to be all wrong from Jesus Soto-Karass. Soto-Karass is a tough hombre, he isn't afraid to take 4 or 5 punches to give you a left hook to the body. He's an action fighter and he brings it. You have to respect that. However, in this fight, Andre Berto should be able to tee off time and time again. Andre Berto has a lot of flash in his game. He's got a lot of speed, very explosive, and athletic. Soto-Karass is quite slow and stiff as he walks forward throwing punches. Berto will have opportunities to fire off his overhand right and that right uppercut that should bounce off Soto-Karass' head round after round after round.

It isn't all doom and gloom for Soto-Karass, though. He does have a chance Berto has a lot of glaring weaknesses. First off, Berto gets off to very slow starts. I don't know what it is with Andre Berto, but he's been susceptible to getting dropped early. In his most recent fight versus Robert Guerrero last November he was dropped in rounds 1 and 2. Before that, he fought Jan Saveck (another fight where a weakness was just glaring out there...we'll get to that later). Before Jan Saveck, he fought Victor Ortiz and was dropped in round 1 (also later on in that fun Round 6) and hurt many times. Before that fight, he stopped Freddy Hernandez (a fight which is a lot like this one. Just a terrible style match up for Hernandez.), and against Carlos Quintana he was dropped in the first round, but referee Tommy Kimmons ruled it a slip.

So, basically, history tells us that if Soto-Karass can get to Berto quickly early, Soto-Karass may just put Berto on the seat of his pants. The problem is keeping him there which nobody has done thus far. If Soto-Karass can drop Berto and get off to an early lead, keeping that pressure on and getting to Berto's body will be key. Berto has had stamina issues. He is so explosive with his punches (mainly that right hand) that he has a tendency to wear down as the rounds progress. It would have been interesting to see how his fight versus Zaveck would have played out had it continued. Berto was already wearing down after five rounds, and Zaveck doesn't get tired. Too bad that fight was cut early, and too bad we aren't getting a rematch. Also, against Ortiz, Berto struggled to finish. Berto didn't throw much and it was basically a hugfest from round 7-12. Now, in fairness, Berto was still strong versus Robert Guerrero. Berto started to get to Guerrero and win some rounds late. So, perhaps Berto's stamina has improved. We'll have to see, but if I'm in Soto-Karass' corner, I'm giving him the confidence that he can get to Berto late in the fight.

Also, if I'm in Soto-Karass' corner, I'm telling Soto-Karass that Berto is a one handed fighter. Hats off to Berto for getting this far in boxing with just a right hand. Berto's overhand right and right uppercut have been pretty money over the course of his career. Berto's left hand, eh, not so much. Berto doesn't have a jab. Berto has one of the ugliest jabs in boxing. He backhands with it, slaps with it. It's terrible. And he doesn't feature a left hook, nor a left uppercut. He really doesn't do much with his left hand and it does no damage. We'll see if may'be he'll have some new tweaks in his game this go around, but I doubt it. So, if I'm in Soto-Karass, I'm not worrying about Berto's left hand. Put yourself in a position to where you minimize the damage of Berto's right hand. Basically, open yourself up to his left hand until he makes the adjustment.

Overall, who do I like, I like Berto. I'm expecting Berto to win and to win big. I like Berto to win by stoppage, probably a corner or ref stoppage. It's sort of a not who's going to win, but when will Berto win. He may stop Soto-Karass in round 2 or round 9. But, again, who knows? This is boxing, anything can happen.

kirk · Jul 16, 2013

:happy:happy:happy:happy

BeastsideBoxing · Jul 16, 2013

WBK

Kirk
R11 Lundy MD
R12 Molina UD wide

Bladerunner
R11 Ajose KO 6
R12 Bey Close decision

No spare round, kirk ?

kirk · Jul 17, 2013

I have to wait for my other picks... boxrec wouldn't let me access their page, and Ill be waiting til I can analyze a bit more. So ill probably put in my other picks a bit later.

PinoyProdigy · Jul 17, 2013

Thanks for the Previews Dan! And looks like Kirk is really putting it all in these last two rounds.

kirk · Jul 17, 2013

The Ajose vs Lundy fight is haunting me right now Hes such a tough customer, and I feel he will 'want it' more then Lundy. I think a guy like Ajose is hard to beat unless you have something to truly beat him with, which Im not sure Lundy has.

I should just go with Ajose by UD, close. But its too late to change it now :-(

Oh well.... this will decide it. Last two rounds of the WBK title fight, and we both have different winners.

kirk · Jul 17, 2013

PinoyProdigy said: ↑

Thanks for the Previews Dan! And looks like Kirk is really putting it all in these last two rounds.
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If I could, knowing that Blade has Ajose by stoppage, I would change my pick to Ajose by decision.... I think that's the 'safer' pick. Maybe I over-analyzed this fight, which I have a tendency to do sometimes, and wind up giving the underdog a better chance then they actually have.

But, I am also taking perhaps some shady judging into account. If I thought it would be a fair match, Id go Ajose by close decision. But I think Lundy will get a bit of an edge with the judges, and I expect some controversy. That's why Im going with the MD for Lundy.

idk.... all I know is I am pumped for the fight. I am actually rooting for Ajose in this, I hope he pulls out the win.

kirk · Jul 17, 2013

DemolitionDan said: ↑

Andre Berto vs. Jesus Soto Karass: Andre Berto by TKO

On the 27th of July boxing will finally be back on a major network on a Saturday night. This month has been rough in that regard. Not much to look forward to on a Saturday night. Now, while this definitely isn't the best card nor is the best main event...at least it is something. On paper this looks like a very one sided fight. Everything points to Andre Berto winning, winning big, and more than likely winning by stoppage. But, as we've seen this year some fights that have been one sided on paper hasn't played out that way in the ring. So, we'll see what happens, but I definitely like Berto here.

I don't rate Andre Berto all that highly, but stylistically he seems to be all wrong from Jesus Soto-Karass. Soto-Karass is a tough hombre, he isn't afraid to take 4 or 5 punches to give you a left hook to the body. He's an action fighter and he brings it. You have to respect that. However, in this fight, Andre Berto should be able to tee off time and time again. Andre Berto has a lot of flash in his game. He's got a lot of speed, very explosive, and athletic. Soto-Karass is quite slow and stiff as he walks forward throwing punches. Berto will have opportunities to fire off his overhand right and that right uppercut that should bounce off Soto-Karass' head round after round after round.

It isn't all doom and gloom for Soto-Karass, though. He does have a chance Berto has a lot of glaring weaknesses. First off, Berto gets off to very slow starts. I don't know what it is with Andre Berto, but he's been susceptible to getting dropped early. In his most recent fight versus Robert Guerrero last November he was dropped in rounds 1 and 2. Before that, he fought Jan Saveck (another fight where a weakness was just glaring out there...we'll get to that later). Before Jan Saveck, he fought Victor Ortiz and was dropped in round 1 (also later on in that fun Round 6) and hurt many times. Before that fight, he stopped Freddy Hernandez (a fight which is a lot like this one. Just a terrible style match up for Hernandez.), and against Carlos Quintana he was dropped in the first round, but referee Tommy Kimmons ruled it a slip.

So, basically, history tells us that if Soto-Karass can get to Berto quickly early, Soto-Karass may just put Berto on the seat of his pants. The problem is keeping him there which nobody has done thus far. If Soto-Karass can drop Berto and get off to an early lead, keeping that pressure on and getting to Berto's body will be key. Berto has had stamina issues. He is so explosive with his punches (mainly that right hand) that he has a tendency to wear down as the rounds progress. It would have been interesting to see how his fight versus Zaveck would have played out had it continued. Berto was already wearing down after five rounds, and Zaveck doesn't get tired. Too bad that fight was cut early, and too bad we aren't getting a rematch. Also, against Ortiz, Berto struggled to finish. Berto didn't throw much and it was basically a hugfest from round 7-12. Now, in fairness, Berto was still strong versus Robert Guerrero. Berto started to get to Guerrero and win some rounds late. So, perhaps Berto's stamina has improved. We'll have to see, but if I'm in Soto-Karass' corner, I'm giving him the confidence that he can get to Berto late in the fight.

Also, if I'm in Soto-Karass' corner, I'm telling Soto-Karass that Berto is a one handed fighter. Hats off to Berto for getting this far in boxing with just a right hand. Berto's overhand right and right uppercut have been pretty money over the course of his career. Berto's left hand, eh, not so much. Berto doesn't have a jab. Berto has one of the ugliest jabs in boxing. He backhands with it, slaps with it. It's terrible. And he doesn't feature a left hook, nor a left uppercut. He really doesn't do much with his left hand and it does no damage. We'll see if may'be he'll have some new tweaks in his game this go around, but I doubt it. So, if I'm in Soto-Karass, I'm not worrying about Berto's left hand. Put yourself in a position to where you minimize the damage of Berto's right hand. Basically, open yourself up to his left hand until he makes the adjustment.

Overall, who do I like, I like Berto. I'm expecting Berto to win and to win big. I like Berto to win by stoppage, probably a corner or ref stoppage. It's sort of a not who's going to win, but when will Berto win. He may stop Soto-Karass in round 2 or round 9. But, again, who knows? This is boxing, anything can happen.
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kirk · Jul 17, 2013

DemolitionDan said: ↑

Hello everybody. As some may know I've had some computer problems that has prevented from coming on here and various websites. Keeping this long story short I decided to download firefox. I had been using google chrome for awhile after using internet explorer which went to **** as well. But, anyway, I downloaded firefox, am using that right now, and it's like a whole new computer. Finally, I can have two tabs open (wow!) at the same time. It's pretty amazing. I don't know how long this fast speed will last before this internet firefox thing will take a dump. So, anyway, to celebrate this glorious day I'm just going to ramble on about some of the fights coming up. Hope you enjoy.

Ajose Olusegun vs. Henry Lundy- Ajose Olusegun by MD

This hasn't been the best year of Friday Night Fights, but it has picked up of late. We've finally been getting some good fights on paper, and they've been just as good in the ring. This week it looks good on paper. Olusegun Ajose-Hank Lundy is a really good, interesting fight. Both fighters are very fast, very explosive, and both are entertainers in the ring. Obviously, Lundy is the more known. He's been on FNF a few times now, he's been known to run his mouth quite a bit. He has been humbled of late, though. In his last two outings, he's lost. He went to the Ukraine to go up against undefeated Viktor Postol and came up short. Then last year he was in a real barn burner versus Raymundo Beltran and came up short again.

Olusegun Ajose is entertaining in his own right, he just hasn't had the spotlight as much. In the ring, Ajose is known to have some fun, drop his hands, clown around a bit. He's a fun fighter. It's sort of a shame because for the longest time he was avoided and nobody wanted to fight him. For one reason or another, whether it be money, networks, whatever. He was unable to get a dance partner.

Finally, last year, he was able to debut on a special ShoBox to fight Ali Chebah and it was a heck of a fight. Ajose used his speed, his slickness, entertained, took some shots, and ended up winning. His stock rose, but still couldn't find a dance partner. Now, depending on how you look at this, Ajose looked across the gym, stared out, and locked eyes with a fellow boxer that was standing in the corner looking at his cup of punch. Ajose walked over to this beastly looking fella and stook his hand out. "Fight?" Ajose said, and the Beast looked up and his eyes lit up. This beast known as "Matthysse" took Ajose by the hand and ended up giving Ajose a real beating for 10 rounds. Ajose proceeded to get up and said "****, no wonder that ****er is alone in his own corner. Goddamn!"

It's been almost a year since Ajose showed his heart and toughness in sticking around with Matthysse before it was stopped in 10. Since then Ajose has fought once, this past March, and won easily against a 6-14-2 fighter.

This is a real good fight and should be fun. Again, both are very fast, entertaining and it's tough to see how this won't be good. It's a tough fight to predict there are a lot of unknowns, but I think I do favor Ajose by a nose. I do think Ajose is slicker and will make Lundy miss some shots. Lundy hasn't really fought anybody that's just as fast as him, and that might be a problem. It may be a tough adjustment for him to make. So, with that I do think Ajose will win, Lundy is treading down a bit, Ajose I think still has plenty in the tank. Ajose has the speedy, slick, southpaw style (even though he is known for changing his stance quite a bit). Tough fight, I do think it's just about a 50/50 fight. This mirror type fights are always tough, but just sit back, relax, and just have a good time watching this fight.

Dereck Chisora vs. Malik Scott- Malik Scott by SD

Ah, yes, these fights. These type of fights where the winner is pretty obvious, but you have to factor in shenanigans. The better boxer is Malik Scott hands down. Scott is longer, faster, good jab, good footwork, good head movement. Scott is a really good fight. A little bit like the Olusegun Ajose. Ajose was just looking for some fighters to fight. Scott is in the same boat. Scott is looking for a chance to make a name for himself and throw his hat in the ring for a championship one day. Unfortunately, with no hype, no backing, there isn't much you can do out there. Just keep beating whoever you have in front of you.

Unfortunately, it isn't that easy either. In boxing, you can beat your man and still not win. This was the case for Malik Scott this past February. In February, on the NBC Sports Network, Scott outboxed the very powerful, but very limited plodder in Vyacheslav Glazkov. Even though the fight was in America, and billed as two undefeated heavyweights, Glazkov was the darling coming in. Scott easily outboxed Glazkov for ten rounds easily banking 6 rounds. Easy. I forget what my scorecard was, but it was wide in favor of Scott, may'be 97-93, 98-92, the point being that Scott won. It was clear that Scott won. But, boxing being boxing, the fight ended up a draw. If we are going to try and clean up boxing let's be specific and call out these judges. John McKaie had Glazgov winning 96-94, and Julie Lederman had it a draw 95-95. Inexcusable. When you watch boxing, let's keep note of some of these judges. They deserve to be called out. In this case McKaie, and Lederman really screwed the pooch here. Meanwhile, Hats off to John Poturaj who had it right. He had the fight 98-92.

So, Scott is coming off a fight he should have won. What about Dereck Chisora? Well, I think a lot of us know about Chisora already. He's a pretty big name in boxing. He won a tune up earlier this year, as I recall he looked pretty bad. Before that he was knocked out by David Haye, beaten by Vitali Klitschko, and beat Robert Helenius but was robbed blinded. An even bigger robbery than the Scott-Glazgov fight. Giuseppe Quartarone and Manuel Oliver Palomo both had it 115-113. Atrocious. Leszek Jankowiak didn't exactly have a great scorecard either, but at least he had Chisora winning 115-113.

Now, we've broke it down a bit, talked a little about both fighters. So, how will this fight play out? Well, Chisora is going to come out aggressive. Anything he throws, clean or not should get the crowd excited with some "ooo's" and "aah's". Scott is just going to have to keep Chisora off him. Jab, use angles, and throw a lot of punches. And the thing about Chisora is that he doesn't hit all that hard. Scott can afford, at times, to put himself in harms way if he needs to. Try and put some mustard on his shots, throw combos, to try and get the judges' attention.

If all was fair in boxing I'd favor Scott big time. I have Scott winning going away. But, all isn't fair in boxing. Scott is going across the pond, he's going to have to do more. I'm still picking Scott to win just because he is the better fighter and should prove it in the ring. Will that happen? We'll see. Scott doesn't have any power and the judges may already have their scorecards filled out. If Chisora wins legitimately, than a tip of the hat. I just hope who should win, does win. Anyway, I'm picking Scott and I'll pick him via SD.

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Its awesome to read your breakdowns again Dan :good

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