**** Kirks Championships 2013 ****

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by kirk, Jan 3, 2013.


  1. BeastsideBoxing

    BeastsideBoxing "The Thrill" Gavril Full Member

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    Aren't pick1 and reserve pick exactly the same ?
    Also it looks even more complicated than what I said.
    :think

    I'll read the rest of your post now...
     
  2. kirk

    kirk l l l Staff Member

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    I know they have explained it well, but figured Id give it a shot as well :lol:

    The Peoples Championship is a title that when the champion has it, can be challenged for by anyone.

    So, right now Tackleberry is the champion.

    When Tackleberry puts up his predictions for this weekends fights, if he is picking someone to win, who you think will lose, all youd have to do to challenge him for the title is to make a post saying such, and of course putting down the fight you are challenging him on that you think hes wrong about.

    The first person to issue that challenge to the champion, becomes the official challenger to the title.

    Hope that helps and hope to see you around :good
     
  3. kirk

    kirk l l l Staff Member

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    Another idea that would work.

    So, for the UD's.

    We will use Matthysse vs Dallas Jr as an example.

    When picking UD's, you will have to say 'Close UD' or 'Wide UD'

    Wide UD : If 2 of the 3 judges cards have it 9 rounds or more to 3 rounds or less
    Close UD : If 2 of the 3 judges have it 8 rounds or less to 4 rounds or more

    So if Matthysse wins a UD, and 2 of the 3 judges gave him 8 rounds or less, Matthysse would have won a 'Close UD' and the person picking close UD would win the round.

    For 10 rounds the splits would be 7 rounds or less to 4 rounds or more being close, 8 rounds or more to 2 rounds or less being wide.

    I think this is the format I will be going with. Is fairly simple, easy, no personal interpretation as the guidelines for whats close and wide are already set and we would be then going off of official cards, and also maintains the integrity of peoples picks while adding another way to split UD's to help minimize draw rounds.
     
  4. BeastsideBoxing

    BeastsideBoxing "The Thrill" Gavril Full Member

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    Robney your proposal is basically, add a second opinion at your picks just in case they are identically with your opponent(UD vs UD / TKO5 vs TKO5 / TKO2 vs TKO4 - result being TKO3). In cases of equality second opinion becomes decisive. It's an okey suggestion, but for some reason it just doesn't sit well with me. But I'll gladly accept it if Kirk and everybody else like it. Maybe it will grow on me, in time. IDK why maybe it's just picking twice for the same fight, that bothers me a bit.
     
  5. kirk

    kirk l l l Staff Member

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    Hmmmm..... good idea Robney, good idea :think

    I appreciate the feedback and idea.

    This will be cleared up today.... I dont like issues taking long to wrap up and weve discussed this for a few days now :lol:

    So, we will either go with this, or go with the 'wide ud' 'close ud' that I posted in my previous post. Either one is fine by me.

    Good thing about Wide/Close : Maintains the integrity of the pick
    Negative : There could still technically be draw rounds if both people picked close or wide

    Good thing about backup pick : Eliminates most draw rounds
    Negative: Still could technically be draw rounds, somewhat jeapordizes the integrity of the pick as maybe a guy loses because what he really felt would be the outcome had to be changed.

    So, by the time I sleep tonight I will have made up my mind. Thank you all for the input and this will be resolved soon I promise :lol: :good
     
  6. BeastsideBoxing

    BeastsideBoxing "The Thrill" Gavril Full Member

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    Why not make UD 117-113≥ (equal or bigger)
    And UD 116-112 ≤ (equal or less)

    Or just pick UD and say the words in brackets. ( A bit like Over/Under)

    Instead Close UD / Wide UD
     
  7. kirk

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    1/25 - Serhiy Dzinziruk vs. Brian Vera - 10x3 (ESPN2)
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    1/26 - Hugo Fidel Cazares vs. Rey Perez - 12x3 NABF Bantamweight Title
    1/30 - Daniel Geale vs. Anthony Mundine II - 12x3 IBF Middleweight Title (Australia Main Event)
     
  8. kirk

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  9. kirk

    kirk l l l Staff Member

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    Pretty much the same thing, just figured it would be easier for the person picking the fight to say close or wide as oppossed to their score.

    Either way the idea itself stays the same only the wording changes.

    So if youd rather list the scores or have brackets or whatnot, how would you feel on the actual idea in terms of helping to split UD's. Its the same as was suggested earlier pretty much. Just instead of doing an average, or picking one card, it will just be whatever 2 of the 3 judges have it.
     
  10. BeastsideBoxing

    BeastsideBoxing "The Thrill" Gavril Full Member

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    I guess Wide UD and Close UD is easier to pick, without you having to calculate the points of a scorecard after all. But you got to mention somewhere on your WBK posts, what Wide UD and Close UD means exactly.

    Equal or bigger than 9-3 (9-3/10-2/11-1/12-0 or any other variations 9-1-2)
    Equal or less than 8-4
     
  11. kirk

    kirk l l l Staff Member

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    :good For sure.

    How do you feel on it. Are you ok with it as an option?
     
  12. BeastsideBoxing

    BeastsideBoxing "The Thrill" Gavril Full Member

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    Why not just pick based on rounds , UD 12-0/11-1/10-2/9-3/8-4/7-5 and eliminate that even further?
     
  13. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt FROM THE RIVER TO THE SEA Full Member

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    I got $10 riding on Geale is anybody is keen?
     
  14. BeastsideBoxing

    BeastsideBoxing "The Thrill" Gavril Full Member

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    Yeah I'm more attracted to it than, Robney proposal (that I respect).
    I'm okey with it.
     
  15. kirk

    kirk l l l Staff Member

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    Think Im going to go with Vera by SD :-( :patsch

    gaaaaahhhhh hope I dont regret it

    :-(