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kirk · Apr 27, 2017

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kirk · Apr 27, 2017

gahdamn Im pumped for this lol....

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kirk · Apr 27, 2017

If wlad wins he will join Lewis, Holyfield and Ali as one of the only three time champions? Thats crazy....

kirk · Apr 27, 2017

Also only the third time that SHO and HBO have worked together for one fight, with Lewis-Tyson and Mayweather-Pac as the others.

kirk · Apr 27, 2017

Not gonna lie.... Wlad looks ready. His training looks good. He looks completely focused and ice cold. Damn

lufcrazy · Apr 27, 2017

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So a guy gets dominated by one of the most talented and naturally gifted fighters of the last 15 years, and loses his passion afterward and now he's a bum that won't live up to the hype? But what if Chavez Jr. brings his Andy Lee A-Game here and does care again? And all signs are pointing that being the case. Quit being such a cynic, isn't that my deal?

If Margarito didn't have a ****ed up eye that Pac could tee off on every time he was in trouble, he could have finished the job, what I'm implying here is, an uninjured Margs vs. Pac that match would have been a whole lot more interesting coming down the stretch.

And you're right, Margarito fights nothing like Canelo, are you dense??? I wasn't implying that. Chavez does though, and Canelo can and has fought like Cotto in the past.
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I never refer to a professional fighter as a bum, I think it's quite a disrespectful term and I'd prefer it if you refrained from such terminology in future.

If you think Chavez has lived up to his hype that is your prerogative, I disagree.

What I'm saying is Margarito had the opportunity to do everything you say, but he did not have the ability to pull it off, I know that because he didn't actually pull it off.

Everyone is dense to a certain degree, the density will differ depending on the mass and volume of said person. Actually since muscle is denser than far, being called dense is somewhat of a compliment so I'll take it.

Chavez has better than a 1 in 4.5 chance of victory, but it's not a victory I expect him to obtain. What I expect is him to defend punches with his chin, ship a hellacious amount of power shots and make Canelo look deadly.

CST80 · Apr 27, 2017

lufcrazy said: ↑

I never refer to a professional fighter as a bum, I think it's quite a disrespectful term and I'd prefer it if you refrained from such terminology in future.

If you think Chavez has lived up to his hype that is your prerogative, I disagree.

What I'm saying is Margarito had the opportunity to do everything you say, but he did not have the ability to pull it off, I know that because he didn't actually pull it off.

Everyone is dense to a certain degree, the density will differ depending on the mass and volume of said person. Actually since muscle is denser than far, being called dense is somewhat of a compliment so I'll take it.

Chavez has better than a 1 in 4.5 chance of victory, but it's not a victory I expect him to obtain. What I expect is him to defend punches with his chin, ship a hellacious amount of power shots and make Canelo look deadly.
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It's such a pity that you're the biggest disbeliever in astrology, because goddamn, your chart is frighteningly accurate. Aries Moons are the most unbearably smug know-it-all's on planet earth, they're despicably pretentious and condescending, they have all the bravado and arrogance of the Aries, with none of the charm and intelligence to back it up, but they sure think they do. The smarmy way they go through life always passively aggressively attempting to bait people into some kind of fight to show them up only to act all innocent after they get it, is truly reprehensible.

Take it from me, I know, I have 3 relatives with Aries Moons, and I hate them all. I can smell one a mile away, which is probably why you annoy me so much.

They're repulsive people, don't take my word for it, here's a few of your unstable fellow weirdo Aries Moons.

Angelina Jolie, Pamela Anderson, Tupac Shakur, Pablo Escobar, Muammar Gaddafi, Jeffrey Dahmer, Saddam Hussein, Idi Amin, Pol Pot, Joaquin Phoenix, Kendall Jenner, Selena Gomez, Whitney Houston, Pink, Ellen DeGeneres, Salvador Dali, Andy Warhol, Christian Bale, Janet Jackson, Al Capone, Daniel Day Lewis, Chuck Norris, Henry VIII, Hayden Panatierre, Malcolm X, Amber Rose, Adam Lambert, Heinrich Himmler, Jon Voigt, John Holmes, Anna Wintour, Maximillian Robespierre, Jim Jones, will.i.am, Sarah Ferguson, Jeff Hardy, John Galiano, Bill O'Reilly, Kendra Wilkinson, Meghan Trainor, Joe Pecsi.

****ing kooks.

theanatolian · Apr 27, 2017

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I don't even dislike Canelo, but I have NO IDEA why more people aren't seeing this match for what it truly is, a 50/50 match that should probably in reality lean 60/40 Julio Jr. I'm going to do my absolute best to give a full breakdown article by midweek next week, before the match as to why I think JCCJr can pull this off, but I'm not making any promises.

Okay, I'll give you a few reasons in advance.

You guys do realize that Fonfara and Martinez would savage Canelo right?

Fine Chavez has looked less than stellar in his last 4 or 5 outings, but... Reyes is 6'1, Vera is 5'11, Fonfara is 6'3, Martinez 5'11, Rubio 6'0, Lee is 6'2, these are kind of huge guys, one a legit Light Heavyweight.

Canelo is at best 5'8 maybe as small as 5'7, with a shorter reach than all over those guys.

Now tell me, do you really think that Liam Smith could hang with Fonfara, Martinez or Rubio for 9 rounds? Of would he be brutally eviscerated in 5 or under? Khan would have been body bagged by Maravilla and Lee. And guess who else would possibly beat Canelo, Marco Antonio Rubio.

Canelo has average power at Light Middleweight, and the only time he scores highlight reel KO's is when he has glass jawed plodders, when the plodder isn't glass jawed, you get prolonged beatings a la Angulo, but here's the catch Chavez IS NOT GOING TO BE DRAINED, he's already almost on weight a week and a half out, and Chavez is also not a Light Middleweight, or a Middleweight and the night of the fight, he may very well be a Cruiserweight.

And if you honestly think Chavez Jr. who is relentless, can't pin Canelo, who has at times, long periods where he decides to rest along the ropes and counter punch, and go to town on him ripping hard shots to his body and savage left hooks up top, you're deluding yourself. Canelo isn't some hyper slick and defensive elusive fighter like Lara.

The same reason why I think Canelo will lose and Chavez will win, is the reason that I picked Sor Rungvisai, he brings non stop aggression, is taller, longer reach, and is all together just too damn BIG, while Canelo like Chocolatito is better in every way shape and form, Chavez's bigness may negate all of that and like Roman his slightly above average power may not carry up, and even if it does, is it 6'3 LIGHT HEAVYWEIGHT Fonfara, with KO's over Dawson, Campillo, Karpency and near KO of Stevenson, level? And will Canelo be as relentless and throw as much volume as Fonfara. No and no. Chavez ain't getting stopped, so get that out of your head.

Is Canelo as elusive as Maravilla, or as powerful, no and no, and if Canelo isn't as elusive, then Chavez can land on occasion, and if Chavez almost KO'd a far more slippery Sergio, then he can definitely catch and unload on a little pune like Canelo, who's chin IMO is actually untested against someone with truly elite power.

Pressure busts pipes, now tell me, when has Canelo fought a good pressure fighter who is bigger and stronger than him, with one of the best chins in the sport, he hasn't, so no one needs to think the result of this match is a foregone conclusion by any means.
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I think the main difference between you and the rest of us who think this'll be one-sided is how you rate Chavez Jr. You think he's a good pressure fighter, I think he's just average fighter who over-achieved at MW mainly due to his size advantage. And that was almost 5 years ago, he hasn't beaten a ranked contender in over 4 years. Even against Dominic Britsch(a guy who's rated #117 per boxrec) he looked average. I don't see him bringing the pressure or workrate of Margarito.

CST80 · Apr 27, 2017

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I think the main difference between you and the rest of us who think this'll be one-sided is how you rate Chavez Jr. You think he's a good pressure fighter, I think he's just average fighter who over-achieved at MW mainly due to his size advantage. And that was almost 5 years ago, he hasn't beaten a ranked contender in over 4 years. Even against Dominic Britsch(a guy who's rated #117 per boxrec) he looked average. I don't see him bringing the pressure or workrate of Margarito.
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I don't rate Chavez Jr. particularly high actually, never have, I picked Martinez to beat him with ease. I just think a highly motivated JCCJr. fighting a guy with questionable stamina in the past, fighting two divisions north of what he usually fights at, who's never been in with someone truly bigger with a great chin who will not only bring the fight to him, but give as good as he gets, if not better due to the size and probable power advantage tells me Canelo will not have an easy time with him.

CST80 · Apr 28, 2017

By the way, @kirk you're exempt from my Aries Moon rant. You're a Cancer and that's a water sign, which usually puts out the Aries Moon, since its a Fire sign. Water signs deal with Aries Moons well. But most other combos don't work out well, at all. Benedict Cumberbatch is a Cancer/Aries, see not that bad.

theanatolian · Apr 28, 2017

Mthalane UD

jmashyaka · Apr 28, 2017

Mthlane UD

KiwiMan · Apr 28, 2017

Mthalane close UD

jmashyaka · Apr 28, 2017

Russell said: ↑

Anyone know anything about Quigg's opponent this weekend?
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He's a tough little pressure fighter who throws a lot of body shots, in his fight against Selby he was coming on strong pretty late but that was like 5 years ago. I think it will be a decent scrap I imagine quigg will win on points regardless of if he genuinely wins or not.

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