**** Kirk's ESB Championships 2011 ****

I'll put 70$ on Barros. Kogawa's a hunch. Not bettign on hunches.

 

Wladimir Klischko (35) vs David Haye (30) for the IBF/IBO/WBA Super/WBO/Ring Heavyweight Championship
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A lot of belts on the line here in this long awaited (overdue) unification bout.
Wlad brings his IBF/IBO/WBO and Ring belts, and Haye brings the WBA (wich is instantly upgraded to "Super") belt with him. But it isn't for the undisputed title, with Vitali's (WBC) still there.
Maybe some of the smaller sanctioning bodies (WBF, IBA etc) puts in one of their vacant belts trying to make themselves more legitimate, you never know.

On to the fight itself.

Like many here know, I like Wlad and I dislike Haye and I'm obviously picking Wlad to win this. And it might be hard to look at this at an objective view (because it isn't).
I will be there (leaving for Germany on a friday) and hope and expect for a massive KO win from Wlad.

Here's my lowdown on the bout.

Haye's only chance in this is to TKO (not KO) Wlad and his biggest window is in the first 3 rounds of the fight, before Wladimir is settled and starts pounding Haye mercilessly with his jab.
In my opinion he has to fight in his own style (on the backfoot, cirlcling) but with a lot more spurts and much, much higher punchoutput (3x) as usual.
If he catches Wlad with a big one, don't go running in like a fool and start mauling away like he's used to, but settle down, look for an opening and pick his punches.
When he is able to take Wlad down and keep him in trouble he should then unload to try and force the stoppage.
If the fight goes on, and both are stil standing in the later rounds Haye should look for the money shot ever so often, cause there's no way he's going to outpoint Wlad.
Doing a Tyson impersonation or trying Sanders'or Brewster's method will most likely end face down on the canvas because Haye doesn't have the tools and certainly not the chin for that.

Wladimir has a lot more methods to beat Haye.
If he uses his usual jab, jab, jab, jab, jab, oops right hand, jab, jab, jab routine he will eventually wear Haye down like all his current opponents and KO him late, or take no chances at all and outpoint him by a landslide.
But there are a couple of wildcards and attention points here;
- First of all are the first couple of rounds, in wich Haye actually can be predictably unpredictable.
Chances are Haye will look for the early KO and Wlad would be smart if he commits to countering Haye full force. He will win the rounds anyway, so no problem if he gets in a few less jabs.
This will be a) A lot safer and b) There's a real chance he catches Haye with something big himself, ending the fight early.
- Second there's the chin issue... Both have bad chins, but Haye's looks even worse. Haye (like his fans and the Britsh press) like to make fun of Wladimir's chin and the fact he's been down 11 times already.
But let's look beyond that for a minute. Wlad has been down 11 times in 58 fights = 0.19 times a fight, Haye has been down 5 times in 26 fights = 0.19 times a fight! Hey wait... that can't be right, can it?
And then we have to consider Haye's significantly worse opposition, and the fact that he fought as a cruiser most of his career and hasn't fought many real punchers yet.
So there is quite a chance he can't cope with Wladimir's punches at all and will go down at the first good punch Wlad connects with. Or with Wlad pulls out one of his sudden left hooks and it's bye bye Kansas.

Another way for Wlad to win the fight is beïng more agressive as usual and adopt his brothers massive punchoutput style, clubbing with his right until Haye buckles.
This of course is a lot more dangerous, but much more exciting way to try and win the fight. A counter "Hayemaker" and he in serious trouble.

Last (and most exciting) method, is Wlad going back to his old style of "seek and destroy" trying to take out Haye early.
Don't think he will, because although he will probably succeed against a smaller chinny Heavyweight like Haye, this gives Haye a real oppertunity to pull the upset.
Unlike his brother he doesn't have a granite chin to fall back on if things go south, and this method has a big chance to work but might turn into a nightmare just as well.

Conclusions:

Haye will try to fight Wlad using his power, speed and lateral movement. Trying to avoid Wlad's jab and land a counter money shot.
Wlad will try to outbox Haye from behind his jab, using his tight defence and height/reach advantage stopping Haye late.

I expect the difference here will be Wlad's superior defence and punchoutput and win KO6/7

 

At least pick on hunches or something. Deal for

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I want to put some money on that, but I'm broke after I got robbed Saturday night.
I didn't have a robbery insurance, so I'll have to restart next week with the $30 I'm going to win with the Wlad vs Haye bout.

 

Weather forecast is excellent. Nice sunny weather, temp in the mid 20s, although windy conditions but no rain expected for the rest of the tournament. Really is a busy busy day.

 

:happy

 

I guess we're talking Wimbledon here? :think

 

Good guess! Now you only have to figure out why I posted it here, I have no clue myself.

 

Can somebody please explain how this works?

Cheers

 

Post your predictions for the fight list for this month (or just this week, and you don't have to pick all the fights) and you're in. You get ranked based on your picking record in different categories (champion, contender, journeyman etc.). There's lots of other features but that's basically it.

 

This is the fightlist for this month...

JULY
07/01 - Pongsaklek Wonjongkam vs. Takuya Kogawa - WBC Flyweight title
07/02 - Jonathan Victor Barros vs. Celestino Caballero - WBA Featherweight title
07/02 - Edgar Sosa vs. Julio Paz
07/02 - Wladimir Klitschko vs. David Haye - IBF, WBA, WBO, & IBO Heavyweight Unification
07/02 - Hernan Marquez vs. Edrin Dapudong - WBA Flyweight title
07/08 - Tomoki Kameda vs. Pumar D. Singwancha
07/09 - Kermit Cintron vs. Carlos Molina
07/09 - Jhonny Gonzalez vs. Roinet Caballero - WBC Featherweight title
07/09 - Arturo Badillo vs. Hugo Fidel Cazares - WBA Super Flyweight title
07/09 - Lucian Bute vs. Jean Paul Mendy - IBF Super Middleweight title
07/09 - Urbano Antillon vs. Brandon Rios - WBA Lightweight title
07/09 - John Murray vs. Kevin Mitchell
07/09 - Paul Williams vs. Erislandy Lara
07/09 - Sugar Akifumi Shimoda vs. Rico Ramos - WBA Super Bantamweight title
07/11 - Satoshi Hosono vs. Kazunori Takayama
07/15 - Diego Magdaleno vs. Alexjandro Perez
07/15 - Pawel Wolak vs. Delvin Rodriguez
07/15 - Marco Huck vs. Hugo Hernan Garay - WBO Cruiserweight title
07/16 - Likar Ramos vs. Juan Manuel Marquez - WBO & WBA Lightweight title
07/16 - Nicky Cook vs. Ricky Burns - WBO Super Featherweight title
07/16 - Julio Cesar Miranda vs. Brian Viloria - WBO Flyweight title
07/20 - Antonio Tarver vs. Danny Green
07/23 - Dereck Chisora vs. Tyson Fury
07/23 - Victor Manuel Cayo vs. Lamont Peterson - IBF Light Welterweight eliminator
07/23 - Roman Gonzalez vs. Omar Salado - WBA Light Flyweight title
07/23 - Ulises Solis vs. Omar Nino Romero - IBF Light Flyweight title
07/23 - Amir Khan vs. Zab Judah - WBA & IBF Light Welterweight Unification
07/29 - Billy Dib vs. Jorge Lacierva - IBF Featherweight title
07/29 - Brian Magee vs. Jaime Barboza - Interim WBA Super Middleweight title
07/29 - Edison Miranda vs. Yordanis Despaigne
07/30 - Rey Perez vs. Nobuo Nashiro

Now you choose the winner of some or all of those bouts, and the way they do it...

Example1: Joe Chinny vs Mike Hammerhand> Hammerhand by KO

fight result: Hammerhand wins UD12

you get a win for having the right winner, but no KO because it went the distance. on that moment you're 1-0, 0KO's

Example2: Rick Runner vs Werner Wobble > Wobble by UD

fight result: Wobble wins UD10

you get a win for having the right winner, and the KO because it went the distance. on that moment you're 2-0, 1KO's

example3: Lance Loser vs Will Winner > Winner by KO

fight result: Loser wins K01

you get a lose for picking the wrong guy, no KO because it is the wrong guy. on that moment you're 2-1, 1KO's

Just make your picks and you're in! :good

 

I'd love to post the full fight video of Rick Runner vs. Werner Wooble but don't wanna get banned. Hammerhand is overrated, he went life and death with Fighting Fart for Chrissakes! atsch

 

Rick Runner vs Werner Wobble was a real barnburner, with Rick trying to walk Werner down trying to make it into a slugfest while Werner constantly used his lateral movement and quick reflexes to counter the slow Rick Runner. :bbb

And I agree with Mike Hammerhand being a bit overrated, but his real problem is just that he has no power to speak off. Every reasonable boxer walks right through his punches but he does have reasonable skills. :think

 

look at the list and make your picks. you get a win for picking the winner, a knockout win for p[icking the correct method of victory and a loss for picking the loser.

truth be told there are loads of side features but it's best getting a handle of the basics first otherwise it can seem a bit daunting

btw, i'm the resident maths teacher so any mathematical needs and i'm here for you, mos def.