**** Kirk's ESB Championships 2011 ****

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FIGHT PURSE -

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BONUS (For getting a KO)
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Wlad vs Haye

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WLADIMIR

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HAYE

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*Canceling the Sosa/Paz fight*

 

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07/01 - Pongsaklek Wonjongkam vs. Takuya Kogawa - WBC Flyweight title
07/02 - Jonathan Victor Barros vs. Celestino Caballero - WBA Featherweight title
07/02 - Edgar Sosa vs. Julio Paz

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07/02 - Hernan Marquez vs. Edrin Dapudong - WBA Flyweight title
07/08 - Tomoki Kameda vs. Pumar D. Singwancha
07/09 - Kermit Cintron vs. Carlos Molina
07/09 - Jhonny Gonzalez vs. Roinet Caballero - WBC Featherweight title
07/09 - Arturo Badillo vs. Hugo Fidel Cazares - WBA Super Flyweight title
07/09 - Lucian Bute vs. Jean Paul Mendy - IBF Super Middleweight title
07/09 - Urbano Antillon vs. Brandon Rios - WBA Lightweight title
07/09 - John Murray vs. Kevin Mitchell
07/09 - Paul Williams vs. Erislandy Lara
07/09 - Sugar Akifumi Shimoda vs. Rico Ramos - WBA Super Bantamweight title
07/11 - Satoshi Hosono vs. Kazunori Takayama
07/15 - Diego Magdaleno vs. Alexjandro Perez
07/15 - Pawel Wolak vs. Delvin Rodriguez
07/15 - Marco Huck vs. Hugo Hernan Garay - WBO Cruiserweight title
07/16 - Likar Ramos vs. Juan Manuel Marquez - WBO & WBA Lightweight title
07/16 - Nicky Cook vs. Ricky Burns - WBO Super Featherweight title
07/16 - Julio Cesar Miranda vs. Brian Viloria - WBO Flyweight title
07/20 - Antonio Tarver vs. Danny Green
07/23 - Dereck Chisora vs. Tyson Fury
07/23 - Victor Manuel Cayo vs. Lamont Peterson - IBF Light Welterweight eliminator
07/23 - Roman Gonzalez vs. Omar Salado - WBA Light Flyweight title
07/23 - Ulises Solis vs. Omar Nino Romero - IBF Light Flyweight title

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07/29 - Billy Dib vs. Jorge Lacierva - IBF Featherweight title
07/29 - Brian Magee vs. Jaime Barboza - Interim WBA Super Middleweight title
07/29 - Edison Miranda vs. Yordanis Despaigne
07/30 - Rey Perez vs. Nobuo Nashiro

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Marquez TKO
Caballero UD
Wladimir TKO
Wonjongkam UD
Sosa TKO

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Wonjongkam UD (Actually I think Kogawa is going to shock the world and become Japan's next champ.. but what the hell.), Barros UD, Sosa KO, Klitschko KO (Again I actually think Haye's going to be fooling us pretty hard by KOing Wlad), Marquez UD.

 

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Wonjongkam UD Caballero SD Sosa TKO Haye TKO5 Marquez TKO

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Wonjongkam UD Caballero UD Sosa TKO Klitschko TKO Marquez TKO

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Wonjongkam UD Caballero UD Sosa TKO6 Klitschko KO10 Marquez TKO8 Kameda TKO8 Cintron UD Gonzalez KO7 Cazares KO10 Bute TKO5 Rios TKO5 Murray UD Lara KO8 Ramos TKO12 Hosono UD Magdaleno UD Wolak TKO9 Huck KO6 Marquez TKO4 Burns UD Miranda TKO11 Green TKO8 Chisora UD Peterson SD Gonzalez KO6 Solis UD Khan UD Dib UD Magee TKO10 Despaigne UD Nashiro KO6

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Wonjongkam UD Barros TKO Sosa UD Wlad TKO Marquez KO

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Wongjongkam UD Caballero SD Sosa TKO Klitschko KTFO Marquez UD

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Wlad KO Barros SD

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Pongsaklek Wonjongkam UD Celestino Caballero Tko Edgar Sosa UD Wladimir Klitschko Pizza11 Hernan Marquez Tko

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Klitschko TKO 9

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Wlad TKO 9

 

*Let me know of any mistakes

* Wagers and Money still to be updated

*Money from Alexander/Matthysse still to be added

*Check on Beenies last set of picks

*Check on Fighter2r's record and where things are not matching up.

 

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Wlad vs Haye

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Wladimir Klischko (35) vs David Haye (30) for the IBF/IBO/WBA Super/WBO/Ring Heavyweight Championship

A lot of belts on the line here in this long awaited (overdue) unification bout.
Wlad brings his IBF/IBO/WBO and Ring belts, and Haye brings the WBA (wich is instantly upgraded to "Super") belt with him. But it isn't for the undisputed title, with Vitali's (WBC) still there.
Maybe some of the smaller sanctioning bodies (WBF, IBA etc) puts in one of their vacant belts trying to make themselves more legitimate, you never know.

On to the fight itself.

Like many here know, I like Wlad and I dislike Haye and I'm obviously picking Wlad to win this. And it might be hard to look at this at an objective view (because it isn't).
I will be there (leaving for Germany on a friday) and hope and expect for a massive KO win from Wlad.

Here's my lowdown on the bout.

Haye's only chance in this is to TKO (not KO) Wlad and his biggest window is in the first 3 rounds of the fight, before Wladimir is settled and starts pounding Haye mercilessly with his jab.
In my opinion he has to fight in his own style (on the backfoot, cirlcling) but with a lot more spurts and much, much higher punchoutput (3x) as usual.
If he catches Wlad with a big one, don't go running in like a fool and start mauling away like he's used to, but settle down, look for an opening and pick his punches.
When he is able to take Wlad down and keep him in trouble he should then unload to try and force the stoppage.
If the fight goes on, and both are stil standing in the later rounds Haye should look for the money shot ever so often, cause there's no way he's going to outpoint Wlad.
Doing a Tyson impersonation or trying Sanders'or Brewster's method will most likely end face down on the canvas because Haye doesn't have the tools and certainly not the chin for that.

Wladimir has a lot more methods to beat Haye.
If he uses his usual jab, jab, jab, jab, jab, oops right hand, jab, jab, jab routine he will eventually wear Haye down like all his current opponents and KO him late, or take no chances at all and outpoint him by a landslide.
But there are a couple of wildcards and attention points here;
- First of all are the first couple of rounds, in wich Haye actually can be predictably unpredictable.
Chances are Haye will look for the early KO and Wlad would be smart if he commits to countering Haye full force. He will win the rounds anyway, so no problem if he gets in a few less jabs.
This will be a) A lot safer and b) There's a real chance he catches Haye with something big himself, ending the fight early.
- Second there's the chin issue... Both have bad chins, but Haye's looks even worse. Haye (like his fans and the Britsh press) like to make fun of Wladimir's chin and the fact he's been down 11 times already.
But let's look beyond that for a minute. Wlad has been down 11 times in 58 fights = 0.19 times a fight, Haye has been down 5 times in 26 fights = 0.19 times a fight! Hey wait... that can't be right, can it?
And then we have to consider Haye's significantly worse opposition, and the fact that he fought as a cruiser most of his career and hasn't fought many real punchers yet.
So there is quite a chance he can't cope with Wladimir's punches at all and will go down at the first good punch Wlad connects with. Or with Wlad pulls out one of his sudden left hooks and it's bye bye Kansas.

Another way for Wlad to win the fight is beïng more agressive as usual and adopt his brothers massive punchoutput style, clubbing with his right until Haye buckles.
This of course is a lot more dangerous, but much more exciting way to try and win the fight. A counter "Hayemaker" and he in serious trouble.

Last (and most exciting) method, is Wlad going back to his old style of "seek and destroy" trying to take out Haye early.
Don't think he will, because although he will probably succeed against a smaller chinny Heavyweight like Haye, this gives Haye a real oppertunity to pull the upset.
Unlike his brother he doesn't have a granite chin to fall back on if things go south, and this method has a big chance to work but might turn into a nightmare just as well.

Conclusions:

Haye will try to fight Wlad using his power, speed and lateral movement. Trying to avoid Wlad's jab and land a counter money shot.
Wlad will try to outbox Haye from behind his jab, using his tight defence and height/reach advantage stopping Haye late.

I expect the difference here will be Wlad's superior defence and punchoutput and win KO6/7
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And noooowwwww, the main event of the evening! 12 rounds of Heavyweight boxing for your entertainment. Dr. Steelhammer Klitschko and the Hayemaker David Haye are finally going at it, a bit overdue, but I think this fight got the perfect amount of seasoning and marinade. Haye a couple of years ago wasn't as big as he is now, and Klitschko, well, is still Klitschko. Ruler of the Heavyweight division along with his brother, Vitali. Speaking of Vitali, it's a bit of a shame that Haye isn't going after Vitali first, because I think Haye dominates Vitali Klitschko. I think Vitali is tailor made for somebody like Haye. I think Haye's speed absolutely befuddles and makes Vitali look baaad....but that doesn't matter, at the moment, because Haye isn't fighting Vitali. He is fighting Wlad, and Wlad has good boxing ability, that nice long stiff jab, and big power with that jab, sneaky left hook, and of course the Steelhammer right hand. Now, Haye has the style to dominate the Klitschko's. If history has told us anything the speed style dominates the European standup 1-2. Some recent example of this is Joe Calzaghe-Mikkel Kessler, Andre Ward-Mikkel Kessler, Gavin Rees-Andy Murray, Sergio Martinez-Sergiy Dzinziruk, etc. Haye definitely has the style to beat Wladimir, but I question his chin and his desire to really win. If Haye had heart, chin, swagger, desire of a Carl Froch I would pick in David Haye in a heartbeat. Unfortunately, he doesn't. Him wanting to retire in October are red flags and a major question of desire, and heart I'm talking about. Haye has the tools I just don't know if he can apply them. So, I've gotta go with Wlad by KO. Wladimir is just a top notch boxer, great power, he has a shaky chin, but he gets up when knocked down and Haye hasn't possed brutal one punch KYTFO at Heavyweight. Also, Klitschko has underrated footwork. Most people are surprised by how quick he is, especially, for a big man. So, all in all I've got Klitschko stopping Haye. Just a quick note I like all the hype this fight is getting, it's good for boxing, but, at the same time I just have this feeling that it will stink out the joint and all this momentum quickly grinds to a screeching stop. Hopefully, I'm wrong and this fight has good action throughout, high drama, and a great conclusion in somebody knocking somebody out.
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