**** Kirk's ESB Championships 2011 ****

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by kirk, Dec 29, 2010.


  1. kirk

    kirk l l l Staff Member

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    Fixed, thanks malden :good
     
  2. BeastsideBoxing

    BeastsideBoxing "The Thrill" Gavril Full Member

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    :happy



    And about the World Domination, it would be more boxing like of you call it something more like... earning fanbase or something.
     
  3. FIGHTER2R

    FIGHTER2R Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Magdaleno tko. Trout tko. Golovkin tko. Fury tko. Pac ud. Bradley ud. Cruz ud. Alvarado ud.
     
  4. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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    Magdaleno UD Lucero
    Trout TKO LoPorto
    Fury TKO Pajkic
    Pacquiao UD Marquez
    Bradley UD Casamayor
    Cruz MD Burgos
    Alvarado UD Prescott
     
  5. kirk

    kirk l l l Staff Member

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    True... :think
     
  6. BeastsideBoxing

    BeastsideBoxing "The Thrill" Gavril Full Member

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    Just saying.... what do I know. Conquering the World or something but any name will be good.
     
  7. kirk

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  8. kirk

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    That is a very very very rough draft of what it would kinda be like....

    And when I split the countries up, I would put a small image of team logo on that country.
     
  9. kirk

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    meh... idk :lol: Maybe a bit silly, might be best to just keep it the basic record and ranking.
     
  10. Samurai's Slice

    Samurai's Slice ESB Legend Full Member

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    Both Ideas work but to be honest I would leave the teams as they are. At least for now.
     
  11. DemolitionDan

    DemolitionDan ATG and HoF Full Member

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    Diego Magdaleno vs. Emmanuel Lucero- Diego Magdaleno by KO
    Austin Trout vs. Frank LoPorto- Austin Trout by KO
    Tyson Fury vs. Neven Pajkic- Tyson Fury by KO
    Manny Pacquiao vs. Juan Manuel Marquez III- Manny Pacquiao by KO
    Timothy Bradley vs. Joel Casamayor- Timothy Bradley by UD
    Juan Carlos Burgos vs. Luis Cruz- Juan Carlos Burgos by SD
    Breidis Prescott vs. Mike Alvarado- Mike Alvarado by KO

    Here we are again boxing fans, another good fight weekend, and not only that it is a big big event. An event where the casuals pay attention. Now, boxing, overall, has been a good year, but in terms of the big fights where all the casuals watch...not so much. We have had Shane Mosley run and touch gloves for 12 rounds against Manny Pacquiao, we had David Haye run, and fall down for 12 rounds against Wladimir Klitschko (and to make matters worse, he blamed his pinky toe. Standing there with his shoe off showing everybody, ugh.) We have had the weird circus finish of Mayweather-Ortiz. Ortiz headbutts, Joe Cortez loses control and in WWE fashion Mayweather knocked out Ortiz, while, Cortez, the ref, wasn't looking at what was going on. For two rounds Bernard Hopkins and Chad Dawson threw a total of 5 punches, Hopkins jumps on Dawson, Dawson shoulders him off, Hopkins can't continue and it is ruled a TKO. (for now...) All in all, boxing's big fights haven't delivered, but this Saturday, with full confidence, I can say that the main event this Saturday will. But before we get into the main course, let's take a look at some of the appitizers to feast on this weekend.

    First up two Friday fights. These, not so competitive on paper, and more than likely, won't be competitive. Diego Magdaleno is taking on Emmanuel Lucero. Now, if boxing had stocks on prospects (and some people get confused on the term 'prospect' a prospect is a young fighter, usually early to mid 20's, a number of fights in the teens to early 20's, and doesn't have a world title belt) and the question was "Who has all the skills to be a long time champion, and who has the looks to be a future superstar?" Talking boxing stocks, I would definitely buy on Diego Magdaleno. Magdaleno is a slick fighter, very skilled, is a young fighter, and has the looks of a Oscar De La Hoya. Magdaleno has all the looks and tools to be in that class. He is fighting Emmanuel Lucero, who, really isn't a step up from his last fight against Alejandro Perez. Lucero is a decent gatekeeper/journeyman type fighter who, basically, loses to good fighters. He has lost to Manny Pacquiao, Daniel Ponce De Leon, Rocky Juraez, and Jason Litzau. Not only that, but he was stopped in those fights. This will be a good barometer to see exactly where Magdaleno is, and if he does stop him (and he should) then he'll be on the right track. So, prediction, Magdaleno by pretty quick stoppage. About the 4th round or so.

    Also, on Friday, the boxing world will finally be able to see Austin Trout. Trout is a good, young, boxer, who just recently picked up a world title at 154. Not only does Trout have the goods, but he has been a road warrior, and a winning road warrior no less. His last 4 fights have been in 3 different countries. Once in Panama (where he was very close to getting robbed.) once in the States, and his last two fights in Mexico. Earlier this year he took on Rigoberto Alvarez (Canelo's hermano) and beat him for a vacant world title. He then defended it back down to Mexico against David Lopez and beat him by wide UD. Now, he's back in the States and it is more a less a showcase fight. He is taking on Frank LoPorto, who is more of a Australian club fighter. On paper this isn't a competitive fight and Trout should easily have his way. Trout is fast, throws lots of punches, decent pop, and all that should be an easy win and a mid stoppage win.

    Tyson Fury, oh how he has grown. Tyson Fury of 2008/2009 was a clown. A big, goofy, uncoordinated heavyweight who was punching himself in the face, to now. A fighter who is getting diciplined and is forming into a pretty good heavyweight prospect. 2011 Tyson Fury has grown leaps and bounds and has been getting better and better and has been making for exciting fights. He stopped Marcelo Luiz Nascimento in 5, but then, the true test came for him. Fellow undefeated Englishmen, Dereck Chisora, took him on and they produced a very entertaining fight and a fight Fury looked quite good at times. His last fight was against Nicolai Firtha and for 4 rounds that was his most complete performance. He looked great, using distance, using his jab, while being exciting, but probably a bit too exciting for him. In the 3rd round he was rocked with a big time right hand and was badly, badly hurt. He recovered though and ended up stopping Firtha in the 5ht round. In this fight, he is fighting Neven Pajkic, who is basically a club fighter with a padded record...a very glossy record. He is undefeated and that is just to make Fury's resume look good. Beating a guy with an undefeated record. That's it. This fight does nothing for Fury, just to make him look good in the ring, and out of the ring. I expect Fury to look good, put on a good performance, and win by early knockout.

    Now, we go to the States to the "fight capital of the world" Las Vegas, Nevada where Top Rank, surprisingly, has a pretty good card on tap. First up, Mike Alvarado is taking on Bredis Prescott. Now, what sucks is that the building will be 80% empty (or I guess 20% full, if you're an optomist) but this fight should be quite good. Mike Alvarado is a fighter that comes forward for 3 minutes, shows nice head movement, thinks about D, and throws nice power shots. Alvarado is coming off a very one sided performance against Gabriel Martinez. Prescott will be coming to fight. Prescott is coming off a good performance where he looked very, very good against Paul McCloskey, a close fight, where he didn't get the nod. Prescott boxed well, beautiful jab, nice straight right. If Prescott comes out motivated tries to box, this will definitely be a fun fight. One of those, bull versus matador type fights. I gotta think Prescott will have a good early rounds, but Alvarado starts hitting up, Prescott gets tired, and Alvarado stops Prescott in the late rounds.

    By this time now, the arena should be 50-65% full by now. And this is all that needs to be said...Mexico versus Puerto Rico. That's it. Nothing more needs to be said...but I'm going to still talk about it. Luis Cruz is an undefeated fighter, but largely untested. His only notable scrap is beating Martin Honorio, but Honorio only had a week's notice and still made it the distance and really did give Cruz fits at times. Cruz is a nice boxer that has had a good arsenal, but he really doesn't do anything that's really "wow'ing" at least, not yet. Juan Carlos Burgos is a bit of the same way. He is a nice, well, rounded boxer, just a little bit better resume. His only really big, big fight was a fight he lost, to Hozumi Hasegawa. Both, nice outside boxers, nice jabs, both very tall for 126/130...this fight will be taking place at 130. Very interesting fight that I think will be a couple of feel out rounds and then it starts to heat up from round 4 on up and I believe we will have a war. This is a very, very even fight on paper and I think most rounds will be very close and we will have a debatable decision...if it makes it to the cards, but, most importantly, it will be a great fight.

    Unfortunately, this is the co-feature of the PPV. The most important fight on a PPV, the gateway to the main event. This fight, with most people that bought the PPV will be tuning in, and pretty much the building will be filled up to watch Timothy Bradley and Joel Casamayor fight. Ugh, now Bradley is a P4P fighter, a top rated fighter, but this fight will most certainly hurt his stock. Casamayor is, not only a tough fighter to look good against, but he is old now. Casamayor looked horrible in his last fight against Manuel Leyva, then it was against Robert Guerrero another snooze induced fight. Basically, tell all your friends to not get mad at Bradley-Casamayor. Tell them that this might be a horrible, horrible fight and have very low expectations of it. And just hope that Bradley comes out with a man on a mission, comes out swinging, and makes Casamayor quit on his stool. Bradley has below average pop, just respectable power, nowhere near knockout type power. Casamayor, same thing and both have really good beards. So, hope that Bradley saves the day, comes out aggressive and just wears down Casamayor, otherwise, we are in for a very bad fight. Prediction: Timothy Bradley by wide UD.
     
  12. DemolitionDan

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    Now, for the main event, Manny Pacquiao and Juan Manuel Marquez are going at it for a 3rd time and look to settle the score once and for all. Going back to the top, all of boxing's biggest fights this year have been major, major letdowns. The type of fights that afterwords make people say "I'm done with boxing" but they end up coming back for the next big event, because, guess what? Sometimes you just get that classic fight that makes you get up, start yelling, heart racing, and you all of a sudden become emotionally invested. The first two fights have been that way, and I don't see why the third one will be any different. Weight is the big issue a major advantage for Manny Pacquiao. The last time Juan Manuel Marquez fought at 140+ he looked very slow and just plain awful against Floyd Mayweather. Marquez though, is a proud warrior, and just has Pacquiao's number. Superb counterpuncher with good pop. Since their two fights people think Pacquiao has just improved so much that he will just destroy Marquez, but people haven't realized, Pacquiao has improved just a bit and he has looked great against come forward fighters left hand dominant. Marquez is a counterpuncher and has a beautiful straight right hand. While, Marquez has gotten older, his technique and skills seem to have improved a bit. For example, his combos have gotten smoother and he has been incorporating more head movement in his game. Just a minor, slight, improvement, that probably won't make that much of a difference, but it is worth pointing out. Anyway, with all that said, weight issue is a big, big difference. Marquez will look a bit sluggish and slow at times and he will be getting caught by shots that he would normally avoid. Marquez has a big heart and that will carry him a long, long way very close to the end. I gotta think though, Pacquiao does stop Marquez late in this fight, a bit like Pacquiao-Morales II-esque. Most importantly though it should be entertaining, and produce fireworks. And just a side note, and not to be a Danny downer or anything like that, but Marquez needs a knockout to win. The cards have pretty much been filled out, and Pacquiao is the winner. I mean, let's face it, Pacquiao won the 2nd fight when Pacquiao wasn't the superstar he is now...and now that he is a cash cow, there is no way he doesn't get a decision victory. Marquez would have to decisively beat him for about 10 rounds. But anyway, Pacquiao is winning this fight, the question is, how will he win? I'm saying Pacquiao stops Marquez this go around, around round 10, 11 or so.
     
  13. jdr

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    Kirk i put picks in already but they are not shown in the updates do i need to put them in again.
     
  14. BigBone

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    This world map domination sounds crazy good. It'd go down, I imagine, first taking all free lands by correct team pick then go H2H and take lands from each other, is that what you're looking for, Kirk? In any case, as many teams as already are, 100 territories sound necessary.

    P.S. again, I should have one win more in my record I think.

    P.S.2. Magdaleno TKO
     
  15. Robney

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    How 'bout you just make it like a NBA/NFL/NHL (I use AmeriCan leages so you catch my drift) like setup. 2 pools that have to go head to head with eachother with say 3 chosen fights and get the points out of that.

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    Round 1: Team1 vs Team8, Team2 vs Team7, Team3 vs Team6, Team4 vs Team5.
    Round 2: Team1 vs Team7, Team2 vs Team6, Team3 vs Team5, Team4 vs Team8.
    Round 3: ....etc, etc.

    At the end the semis between A: #1 of Pool1 vs the #2 of Pool2, and B: the #1 of Pool2 vs the #2 of Pool1.

    Loser A: vs Loser B: for the 3rd place.

    Winner A: vs Winner B: for the Kirk's World Team World Championship of the World :ibutt

    This will also work if there are only 6 teams like now, only then it's probably just winner Pool 1 vs winner Pool 2 in the end.

    Watcha all think?
    If you think it's a good plan please praise me, if you think it isn't just write a angry letter to
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    and I promise I'll reply once I read it. :bart