Klitchskos are so overrated

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by josak, Sep 30, 2009.


  1. philby

    philby Active Member Full Member

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    You're a Kiwi arn't you!?:rofl:hey
     
  2. lefthook89

    lefthook89 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    a WHAT???:?:?:? an exotic fruit?
     
  3. philby

    philby Active Member Full Member

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    See?
    You dont know nothin boy!:D
     
  4. lefthook89

    lefthook89 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    im pretty sure i identified that a kiwi is indeed an exotic fruit, what exactly are you referring too? why cant you say it? if it has anything to do with cultural inheritage im from detroit michigan currently residing in west chester, PA. does that answer your question??
     
  5. philby

    philby Active Member Full Member

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    Yep!

    I just thought a Tua fan would know a little about the country he originated from considering he is not American.

    I thought the Kiwi,s were the only ones still interested in him.
     
  6. lefthook89

    lefthook89 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    well im not to familiar with all the ethnic terms, but i know tua is of samoan descent.
     
  7. Scar

    Scar VIP Member Full Member

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    Arreola a bum?, commit suicide ASAP please and rid of more idiotic comments.

    Your thread does nothing but prove they're underrated. Both brothers fight the best the division has to offer, if you don't approve of the current" best" then stop watching the heavyweight division.
     
  8. josak

    josak Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I'm not saying that. I have no problem with the Klit other than the fact that people constantly compare and match them up with ATG's. It's ridiculous. What have they done or proven to be mentioned in the same breath as those fighters? Sure, they've dominated their era, but their era sucks ass. It's the worst heavyweight era in history. Until someone good comes along and offers them a challenge, we'll never know how good they are.
     
  9. josak

    josak Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Oh , I'm wrong he's really a good fighter. Ya a fatty who stands straight up and uses his face as punching shield. A guy with zero footwork and terrible technique. That's funny coming from a fan of a talented fighter like Floyd Mayweather.

    So is Sam Peter not a bum either? Valuev?
     
  10. Farmboxer

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    Emanuel Steward (2005): “He does have the skill. And he’s very effective in an awkward way. He has an unusual gift that I’ve watched it in training, that really sets him out greatly. Not from being big, he has a little bit of the clumsiness to a degree, he’s not as physically coordinated as his younger brother. But he has this unusual sense of feeling a punch before it comes – but can still move in an awkward direction as far as to neutralize it – and throwing a weird punch at the same time. I saw him do that in the gym so effectively. And its something that can’t be taught. You can just feel the guy getting ready to throw a left hook and he’ll throw a counterpunch, like, from underneath the left hook and move his body at angles that I haven’t seen. And that’s what makes him effective. He’s very effective with that _style_.”

    Stacy McKinley: “Vitali Klitschko is probably the best thinking fighter heavyweight since Muhammad Ali. He’s a very smart, intelligent fighter. Very smart,” said McKinley last week in an interview we did in New York City. “He can box, he can throw punches from all angles. He can move. He can take a punch. He’s tall. He’s busy. He’s very hard to hit. Good thinker. Oh, he’s a helluva thinker.”

    McKinley got a close up view of the WBC Heavyweight champion in Berlin last year while working with Samuel Peter. “That’s what I said when I fought him with Samuel Peters. I said, Don’t try to think with this guy. Don’t try to out-box or out-think this guy. Get in there and fight this guy. But he want to sit back and try to out-think him. You can’t do it. And I told him, He’s probably the smartest heavyweight I’ve seen in the ring since Muhammad Ali. And I’ve seen a lot of good fighters. Larry Holmes and all them were good fighters but they weren’t good thinkers. This guy Vitali is a great thinker. It seems like he knows what you’re gonna do before you start to do it. So he’s very, very, very cagey. I don’t think nobody can beat him.”

    When I ask which fight or fights of Vitali were most impressive which convinced him to become a believer, he replies, “Well, the Lennox Lewis fight. The left-hander he fought that beat his brother (Corrie Sanders). All these guys he fought. He’s just so smart. He moves good. A real intelligent fighter.”

    Then I suggest something many pundits have not yet begun to accept or contemplate. Is Vitali one of the heavyweight greats of all time? McKinley does not disagree. “One of the greats and that’s what I said. I told him. I haven’t seen one that smart since Muhammad Ali. I told him after the fight with Peters, post press conference. Smartest I’ve seen as far as thinking. Most of the guys can’t think that well. He’s just great, man, a great thinker. Since Muhammad Ali. He’s that smart.”

    Does Cristobal Arreola have any chance to beat Vitali? “No,” replies McKinley without a hint of doubt. “Three or four rounds he might get knocked out. He can’t beat that kid. Standing up too straight, he ain’t got the chin or the skills. This guy, like I tell you, he knows what he’s doing. And I was talking to his brother Wladimir, he was down in Miami. I said, Have you and your brother ever sparred together?

    “Wladimir said, No, we’re too competitive. I said, Let me tell you something. That’s a smart boy. He said, Yeah, he’s very hard to fight. I said, You don’t have to tell me. He’s very hard. He’s the best heavyweight out there. I don’t think anybody can beat him.”

    Does McKinley believe Vitali is the superior heavyweight fighter to Wladimir? “Oh yeah. He’d knock Wladimir out. Wladimir’s got good, basic fundamentals but he couldn’t do nothing with that kid. Kid’s too good, man. And I knew we were gonna have a hard fight with Samuel Peters. I said, Go in and put pressure on, cut the ring off and fight him. Don’t think with him. Don’t try to out-box him. Because you can’t out-think him. You’ve got to fight him. But he tried to think and you saw what happened. It was no contest. He quit.”
     
  11. josak

    josak Boxing Addict Full Member

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    ^

    I don't get what posting a bunch of quotes proves. I can give you plenty of quotes as well.

    That quote about Vitali being the best thinker since Ali is laughable.
     
  12. Farmboxer

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    Vitali would have knocked Ali out. All a person has to do is watch Vitali fight, it shows how good he really is. His stamina is better than Ali's was also. He was too strong, big for Ali, Norton, Frazier, Foreman, Cooper, Young, Patterson, Liston, etc. Vitali and Vlad keep cleaning out the heavyweight division. Vitali, WBO, WBC, again WBC, and six time kickboxing champion both pro and amateur.
     
  13. rapidfire

    rapidfire Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Yep, and Vitali would not even need his fists. He would beat them all by just sharing the ring with them. He really is that good. He even can make it rain. And he can spew fire out of his mouth like a dragon. He´s a god. No wonder you´re loving him and pray all day. I understand it. Really.
     
  14. Ilesey

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    They are both very good but are overrated by the majority on this forum.
     
  15. rushman

    rushman Devoid is Devoid Full Member

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    I think there are a vocal minority who over-rate them, and a vocal minority who under-rate them.