So my statement is not false. He lost by a (T)KO. I think we shouldn't discuss who knocked out whom. I think fighting Maskaev would have been a harder fight vor Vitali than fighting Kirk Johnson.
Sorry, neither Peter nor Chagaev were considered "bums" prior to the fights. Peter won against Tua, Chagaev against Valuev. Peter had a single loss on his record, Chagaev none. Don't tell me these were tomato cans, or that the victories were not impressive TKOs. YES, Arreola looked bad. But like it or not, with his power and chin he would give everybody not named Klitschko a war. Chambers, Povetkin, Dimitrenko, Haye, Valuev - all would have real problems with a powerhouse as Arreola. And YES, I assume both Klitschkos would gain dominant victories in a fight against each of the fighters you mention. They are head and shoulders above everybody in the division now - sad but true.
You are a Maskaev fan? Why should Vitali fight a boxer who has been knocked out in quick succession by Johnson, Whitaker and Sanders?
Sam Peter was considered a major threat to anyone prior to his fight with Vitaly KltischKO. It is for a reason that the Wladimir KlitschKO v Chagaev was for Ring magazine belt. KlitschKOs fight the best always.
They do fight the best but the division is at its weakest ever. That is the point and that is why they are overrated on the ESB Forum here. They are not overrated in the media just on the ESB Forum.
You must be really funny guy. Yes, the division is week as hell, but its not they fault. And yes they are competetive fighters to most HW ATG fighters. The only one fighter that would have beat them clearly was Ali. Prime Lennox would have huge chances too. The rest was just too small.
The heavy weight division ca renergize itself again by making the right matchups which we should c next year.
those who hate the Klitschkos also hate, Kessler, Abraham, Pavlik, Calzaghe, Boytsov, Valouev, Ustinov, Bute, etc. Why is this?
Interpretation: HW Americans are getting their ass handed to them and so US fans cry foul and make up dumb theories to undermine foreign fighters (eg. Americans like football these days so that's why in a country with over three hundred million people theres no American talent at HW) :bush:wall Klits are not the greatest fighters ever and are not ATG but would still be top competitors in ANY boxing era.
That's why I get so angry! The bias is too much. Ward caught cheating! Had owned three judges, now only one judge and referee to cheat for him. Ward is a cheater.
This comes off kind of, "blah, blah, blah, new guys suck, old guys rule" and then I go, "blah blah blah, righteous indignation, reason, logic, blah."