both sets are very good in there own right but the marquez brothers resume is leaps an bounds above that of the klits no question
Perhaps. But we know how well JMM consistently does against boxers his own size. How would the Klit's do against opponents their own size? A Boxer who predominately uses his size advantage over his opponents sacrifices skill. Mainly thinking Wlad here...Vitali is not as bad. Although I believe Wlad is the better of the two...more tools...more dangerous...but unfortunately, more boring now. Just saying the W.Klit style is a conscience decision to minimize risk which equates to less skill to me. And I disagree with your Ali comparison. I feel (early) Ali was so special because he was able to used a lower-weight style in a heavyweight body. And Marquez not having the natural athletism of RJJ required him to develop better skills.
you think marquez is fast? you think Wlad slow as a HW? the smaller you are the faster you are. Do the math.
A better question would be, has any of the Klit Bros ever lasted the distance against fighters in the caliber of a Pacqiauo or Mayweather??? Oh yeah, they have never fough anyone in that level! ****ing Vitali didnt last the distance against an overweight unmotivated 38 year old Lennox Lewis, Waldo didnt make it past the 2nd against Corrie Sanders. atsch
1. How does Wlad do against guys his own size? Well, Thompson, McCline and Austin were about the same size. He destroyed Austin and outclassed Thompson, stopped McCline. Although none of them were elite fighters, I'd have to admit. As for Vitali? He was in a hell of fight with Lewis and stopped on cuts in a highly competitive back and forth. Lewis is of similar size. A little shorter, but heavier build. Timo Hoffman, another super heavy, won a UD against him, first fight back from recovery of his shoulder injury. For whatever that might mean. You know. 2. I don't understand why you would think minimizing risk equates to less skill. I would think the exact opposite. It takes skill to minimize risk. Hit and don't get hit. I can't think of too many fighters currently who are better at minimizing risk than Floyd Mayweather, Jr. and I consider him the most skilled fighter in the sport today. 3. See, I would say requires him to develop different skills. A skill is only as good as it is effective and Roy's skills were exceptionally effective, and perfectly suited to his natural characteristics and attributes. :conf
They haven't, but they are what we call "HEAVYWEIGHT CHAMPIONS OF THE WORLD". This alone trumps p4p. We are talking real life, which means either of the klitschkos would murder the Marquez boys in less than 30 seconds.
Nobody is talking real life, you twit. Thats all you can bring up, because as far as boxing skills go Marquez bros are better, and are far more proven than the Klits. Period. John Ruiz was once HEAVYWEIGHT champion of the world..Guess that means he was better than Floyd Mayweather jr or Manny Pacquiao becuase heavyweight trumps p4p Idiot.
WTF are you talking about? Nobody is talking real life...I'm telling you that p4p is a marketing ploy...I'm sure you can appreciate that I'm saying that that goes all out the window in real life...John Ruiz would F up Floyd or Manny in a boxing match. Anyways, would you care to elaborate on how the Marquez brothers have far better boxing skills than the Klits?
Well said brother. The yanks have been brainwashed by their media for so long they forgot what's really important. And that's the HW title. Nobody knows or cares who's the flyweight champion of the world.
It has more to do with what fighters american promoters have. And since they own the boxing media ...
In terms of entertainment value the Marquez bros by a distance so far I don't think there's a unit of measurement to do it justice. In terms of acheivment it's much closer, Rafa picked up an alphabet belt at bantam and super bantam weight, and was the top guy at bantam weight for a while but never really put his stamp on any division. JMM has acheived quite a bit more. The Klitschkos have really dominated their division, but it is against a worse array of talent than the Marquez brothers have had to face. I give it narrowly to the Marquez brothers.
Well, now you've lost me. I believe it is single-handedly fear of SNV being the superior man due to his combination of size and skill. You should research this topic more thoroughly. I suggest watching SNV vs Barrett.