Klitschko has only defended the HW title TWICE....

Yeah he should fight his own brother, because of some moron ...... Aint happen. You will be in agony, until Wlad retire .....

Simple as that.

 

From Wladimir Klitschkos and his teams perspective, Wlad probably never gets defeated by the merit of his opponents, but due to Wlads own mistakes. With that point of view, it doesn' make any difference if he beats up Ross Purrity himself in a rematch or someone of the same or better standard. As long as Wlad wins, he's back on track.

The whole idea that Purrity and Corrie Sanders sparked Wlad thanks to their fighting prowess, appearantly surpassing the 50+ guys Wlad fought by miles, is more than just a little bit :silly Sanders was a decent fighter, Purrity was garbage.

Having that said, ATG-status and resume is an incredible fickle thing where every little shrink in a boxers armor will be used against him. Having your ass kicked and not avening it doesn't help your case. Wlad avenged one of his three losses, had he avenged one more by beating up Purrity, these ESB-debates would have sounded fundamentally different. His losses will keep casting a shadow over his whole career, which, of course, still eclipses the accomplishments of any keyboard warior here on ESB with such proportions that it's hard for the mind to grasp. How big is The Universe? What is an eternity? Understanding the differences between Wlads deeds and his critics is a question on the same level.

 

Wladimir Klitshcko is lineal champion and the best fighter in the heavyweight division, no debate to be had over that

 

Wouldn't be good for business to ruin the family company, you know.

Was brutally beaten up. Too bad he ended up in the ring with one of the bro's that stylewise seemed suitable for kicking his ass. That's another contender run out of the sport. So the KlitschKOs could keep collecting belts, making fortunes and fame, and in general running the show as it suited them :hi:

Was stomped on as well. Business as usual, for the bro's.

 

The original comment was regarding to Wlad defending the title against "no hopers" in the present. So an utterly stupid response from Cisco Sayer.

The Sanders and Purritty fights were long before 2006.

Wlad actually tried to rematch both men. Of course, they rejected these offers to fight the other brother, so they could be the man to beat both brothers. Sanders actually explicty stated, he wanted to beat both brothers and Wlad's rematch would have to wait. Sanders retired after getting destroyed by Vitali, and fighting Purritty again by that stage made no sense, and he wouldn't get creidt for it. Same as they don't want to credit him for the Brewster rematch.

It's like saying Pacman needs to dig up Torrecampo to be legit, after he's already gone to beat superior opponents. Its desperate straw grasping.

 

Actually, I'm not sure about that. I remember his team stating something about Wlad needing to re-establish his superior tactics or something to that effect :think It sounded to me like they wanted to build him up from the beginning again.

It's not like I know Wlads career inside out, but I think an importent stepping stone was his UD of Sam Peter. Him team had been worried that Peter was stylewise wrong for him, as he could bang, had a crazy beard (before taking Wlads shots for 12 rounds at least) and went straight after his opponents. As we all remember, Peter scored some KD's but Wlad didn't panic but instead fought his way through it.

 

the irony is that Sanders WAS a nohoper by that stage (and a failed hoper when prime years before).

 

regarding Peter, Wlad simply waited for the non-athlete opposite him to gass then closed in and killed him in a way ANYONE could kill someone gassed out.


That was the actual plan with Sanders, but that went tragically wrong because Sanders didn't read the script that he was supposed to be a retiree with no motive.

That's not something you can do with a top boxer. FRazier wouldn't gass, he'd apply twice the pressure.

 

Wlad is an ATG who has ruled HW for years and years. For now and ever, he's a part of boxing history. The difference between his shortcomings and other HW's shortcomings are not comparably with the difference between his accomplishments and the accomplishments of keyboard warriors on the Internet.

 

Gotta be the first time I seen a champions abilities/faults compared to the keyboard warriors ones.

not a good post for wlad.

 

If anyone could have defeated Peter at that stage of his caree, then I figure anyone would have done it.

The losses to Sanders and Purrity sure as hell didn't look any good, and yeah Frazier would have dealt with it better. But you can't define a boxers career from two losses when he has about sixty wins or so, many of them against boxers who were equally good or better.

 

yeah I am not sure you can claim "many". I'd say two or three maximum. and lets remember that we are comparing with a retired nobody, which WE SHOULDNT BE doing when we are talking about the HW crown. This is certainly, Klitshcko "era", the first time that question is raised.