Klitschko has only defended the HW title TWICE....

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  1. dinovelvet

    dinovelvet Antifanboi Full Member

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    They were cautious and so was Wlad

    But we ain't talking about a loss to Lennox Lewis here. It was an old , out of shape fringe contender from the previous era.

    Nothing wrong with Wlad tip toeing back , but don't go telling me he's top 5 greatest HW of all time.

    Authentic greats took immediate rematches against far better opponents and won.
     
  2. The Mongoose

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    Whatever gets you through the night. I would like to think anyone who isn't a blind Wlad hater and can be bothered with this thread will see you acting like a child, calling me names and feining ignorance in the face of hard facts.

    As far as actual posting goes, all I can see is that Another Fan has been convinced that Wlad pursued rematches with Sanders and Purritty. No name calling needed, just the facts being presented.
     
  3. The Mongoose

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    Because the only time the fight might have been reasonable was in 2004 when Sanders was still pondering retirement, but Wlad lost to Brewster and got badly cut up in his comeback attempt, forcing him out of action.

    In 2007 and 2008, Sanders comeback wasn't too convincing, and Wlad had bigger fish to fry.

    Brewster was still rated top 10 by RING and the fight was an IBF mandatory.

    This was an [url]IBF[/url] mandatory defense for Klitschko, as Brewster was the highest available contender in the IBF rankings. The No. 1 contender spot was vacant, [url]Ray Austin[/url] (whom Klitschko knocked out in his previous fight) was ranked No. 2, and Brewster was No. 3.

    So there you have it. Wlad didn't drag the previously injured Brewster out of retirement and into a fight, it was a mandatory defense against a rated fighter.

    I would have to disagree with the opinion that Wlad was somehow scared of a 40+ year old multi-year retired Sanders who would get blown out in one round in only his third comeback fight. But one can have their opinion no matter how far fetched.
     
  4. Cisco Route

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  5. The Mongoose

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    Did you forget JAB had this to say your thread title claim?

    :nono

     
  6. JAB5239

    JAB5239 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Not really that far fetched when Sanders openly wondered tue same thing. The fact is Wlad could have tried to get him instead of Brewster. He could have tried To get Sanders in 2005 instead of Castillo or Peter. It would have been an enormous money fight and a chance at redemption. The bottom line is he simply didnt try. Its not a reach to think Wlad was weary of facing Sanders again. If not he would have at least TRIED to get him back in the ring.
     
  7. JAB5239

    JAB5239 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    That has nothing to do with this though, does it?
     
  8. The Mongoose

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    I guess Sanders would wander why Wlad didn't put more pressing obligations at hold and throw money at him to maybe...just maybe tempt him out of retirement.

    The Brewster rematch?

    I don't think you or anybody would honestly be fine with Wlad declining a RING rated IBF mandatory who holds the more recent victory over him to drag a returning 40+ year old into the ring
    in 2007. Sanders even busted his hand in his second comeback fight and had to take more time off. Yeah, I'm sure Wlad wouldn't be accused of ducking the still rated and active Brewster for the retired Sanders.

    If we are talking the first Brewster fight, Sanders was not available as the Vitali fight was in the same timespan.


    Castillo was a return bout after a 6 month lay off due to the cuts, and Sanders was retired.

    Peter was for a shot at the IBF title, and Sanders was retired.


    I don't think it would have been an enormous money fight anymore, and why is Wlad obligated to lure a retired fighter into the ring to prove he isn't scared of him? Why would you put payback over a retired fighter priority over accomplishing something meaningful in the present. At some point, life goes on.

    Declining mandatories and turning down eliminators for major titles to chase down and throw money at a retired fighter to prove he isn't scared. What you are suggesting is very far fetched.
     
  9. Loudon

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    :lol:
     
  10. Loudon

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    Great thread. I'm really enjoying it.
     
  11. lordlosh

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    Since that career-endangering defeat in March, Klitschko has grown obsessed with the rematch above and beyond of the fixations all top athletes feels after they plummet from lofty standings. Klitschko has made it his mission in life to defeat the South African.

    I watched hours of tapes of Sanders to understand better how he moved and acted, Klitschko began. But I wanted to go deeper than that, I wanted to get a feel for how Corrie Sanders thinks. I wanted more and more information about this man who beat me.

    So, Klitschko took hours and hours of golfing lessons from a professional.

    Sanders is a terrific golfer, Wladimir explained. He plays on an almost daily basis when he is in South Africa. It is natural to him, that’s when he does his thinking. I wanted to know the ways in which Sanders thinks.

    It is a very complex sport, golf. It requires thought and intelligence but it is different to chess (a game Klitschko excels at). I understand Sanders better now.

    One cannot help but wonder how different the results would have been had Klitschko taken the South African’s challenge so seriously in the first bout.

    But Wladimir has done more than buy a few irons and putters to prepare for the expected December return. He has hired respected trainer Freddie Roach to work alongside his long-time coach Fritz Sdunek. The American is already working with big brother Vitali and now Wladimir, too, will employ Roach

    It would be stupid not to take advantage of Freddie’s experience and knowledge, Wladimir said. He will be helping me with the details that (a new pair of eyes) are better able to spot.

    Sdunek has flown his charge out to the Alps on the German/Austrian border to train at altitude. He explained: Out here we have more time to talk and concentrate fully on first the Morli fight but also on the Sanders rematch. In Hamburg we are rushed a little but here we are alone.
    Dino is usless.
    Wladimir also say he was thinking that he will KO in fast and wasnt prepare, as well as thinking for vacation.
    Klitschko was thinking about rematch later on, but Sanders lose to Machimana and retired.
    The rematch not happen, not because one of them duck the other, but because of the circumstances.
    Any version of 2006+ Wlad beat any version of Sanders.
     
  12. dinovelvet

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    Well , no. He'd only be able to beat any version of 40 years old or above Sanders:patsch
     
  13. dinovelvet

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    [url]http://www.boxingnews24.com/2010/06/corrie-sanders-doesn%E2%80%99t-know-why-wladimir-klitschko-never-sought-a-rematch/[/url]
     
  14. AnotherFan

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    What the ****!? I was sure this was a troll post, but the quoted article is actually real:

    [url]http://www.secondsout.com/world-boxing-news/world-boxing-news/wladimir-klitschko-obsessed-and-dangerous[/url]

    This is beyond belief. Wlad took golf classes to learn how Corrie Sanders think :blood

    Can it be ... that Wlads success ever since is not merely because of Manny Steward, but becuse developing golfer like powers :scaredas:

    I wouldn't have bet my money on Sanders in a rematch. A fully prepared Wlad can deal with pretty much anything.
     
  15. JAB5239

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    The point is he could have tried to make a rematch and never did. If he was confident he would have tried to avenge such a brutal loss. He could have easily fought him instead of DaVaryll Williamson. Was Sanders retired then? Fact is he NEVER tried to make the rematch. You can use all the excuses you want, but you cant change the undeniable fact.