Klitschko has only defended the HW title TWICE....

Isnt that exactly what happened? I mean we all agree Byrd couldnt hurt Vits, right? And V was so far up on the cards there was no way Byrd could stop him, right? He never needed to throw another punch to win the fight, right?

 

How about the injury? Because the injury was what happened.

 

Fact is a man with 8 pac abs can't be called fat.

I disagree with this desperate spin where a muscular man with visible abdominal muscles is refered to as fat. Lewis always talked retirement, as you say, we can't put much weight on such matters. Byrd took the Vitali fight on short notice as well. Byrd made a prime Vitali quit, took his 0, took his soul. You described it yourself.

If you feel Byrd genuinely did the things you said he did, he must be credited with a win that is at least on par with Lewis.

 

XXXX, keep dreaming. The only rounds was close, was the ones that judges give to Byrd. First 5 rounds was clearly for Vitali.
I dont see any problem with Vitali stamina, he win the last rounds and was nothing wrong with his stamina.
And for the injury ? Its easy to say, use only your 1 hand but how he would defend himself moron ?
And there is a injury and injury. With some injury you can continue with some you cant or you risk your career.
Vitali could not keep his hand up, cause of the shoulder pain. In the past i have same problem but only with a sore shoulder. But a guy who never in his life step in the gym cant know such thing and how painfull that is, and what is on state.

But yeah he quit, cause of some other reason, no matter what Doc say, right ?
But why i do even answer to you, a guy like you, who is blind and only can twist and hate, deserve ignore, what you will get.

 

What round did he stop throwing punches because of his injury? Have fighters not gone on while injured?

 

He pulled out due to injury. Case closed unless you are trying to argue otherwise.

Are you willing to go that far and claim that there was no injury now? I know that you are one of the most frequent Klitschko haters, but perhaps it would be too much.

 

Its great you feel its on par with the Lewis win, i just dont see it as such. And you can say Lewis had an eight pack, but he was at a career high in weight and off for just over a year. That is longer than Corrie Sanders retirement lasted. If you are going to say Lewis was in great shape for Vits we might as well say Bowe was in great shape for the second Golota fight because he was nearly 20lbs lighter than the first.

 

Lets just strip all the belts from Wlad and Wilder and give them to David Haye or Tyson Fury. I mean they have both done so much to deserve them and it would make the Division so 'exciting' and 'better'

:rofl:rofl:rofl:rofl

 

Im a realist, not a hater. And I never said there was no injury. I dont believe that is why he quit though even though it was his "official" excuse. If it was THAT bad than answer my questions. What round did he stop throwing punches? And have fighters not gone on with injuries before?

 

What round did he stop throwing punches in because he couldnt hold his arm up to defend himself? Is it like Danny Williams injury when he fought on with one arm?

 

just damage limitation.

its better to quit than get knocked out by a guy who was fighting at MW previously. especially when you are a super heavy.

probably a mistake to fight someone with very good skills, on reflection, that's vitalis weak spot.

 

If you were a realist and not a hater, you wouldn't have 90% of your posts trying to discredit Klitschkos.

You may be the opposite of what they represent, or may not like their styles or whatever the reason of your dislike of them is, but constantly trying to put some kind of blemish on them does indeed show that you are dedicated to your craft.

You are purposely sidestepping the point and trying push your own agenda through those questions.

1. If a boxer doesn't stop throwing punches, it doesn't mean that he's not injured or suffering damage. The bottom line is that he decided not to continue (or couldn't continue) due to his injury. That is the end of it, and you trying to make some kind of debate out of it shows how dedicated you are to use any chance you can get to put a blemish on Vitali.

2. Fighters have gone through the injuries countless times. It is boxers'/trainers'/etc call whether they are going to take the risk and continue or not. Sometimes they decide that they can't afford to take the risk, especially if it could possibly ruin a career they have in front of them. Sometimes they proceed anyway even if it ends their careers and/or causes them serious damage. It's their call.

I'm wondering what have the Klitschko brothers done to you. They both have been great champions and respectful and honorable sportsmen. Maybe you prefer those who are the opposite to represent the sport, maybe not. Either way, haters often have no dignity, especially when decent/honorable individuals are their target.

 

Youve gone through my post history to determine the percentage of post i have about the Klits? One, your numbers are wrong. Two, i dont hate them, just their delusional fans. Three, you must be pathetic and obssesive about me to go through all that trouble. Than again maybe you're just making it up because you dont like my opinion. Tsk, tsk, tsk.

As people the Klits are outstanding. As a fighter Wlad is boring but an ATG bordering on the top ten in my opinion. Vits on the other hand was more exciting but has an extremely overrated career. Anyone who doesnt see this is either a nuthugger or in denial.

At the end of the day Vits quit against Byrd and he did so while ahead. Sure we can say he was winning. He was. But injury or nor (and neither you, me or anyone else knows what was going through his mind) he quit after missing more punches than he ever had before or since and failing to hurt a much smaller fighter who took the fight on ten days notice. This is not spinning anything, these are facts. So if you want to call me a hater because you dont like the facts than so be it. But dont cry because i keep it real.

 

Youve gone through my post history to determine the percentage of post i have about the Klits? One, your numbers are wrong. Two, i dont hate them, just their delusional fans. Three, you must be pathetic and obssesive about me to go through all that trouble. Than again maybe you're just making it up because you dont like my opinion. Tsk, tsk, tsk.

As people the Klits are outstanding. As a fighter Wlad is boring but an ATG bordering on the top ten in my opinion. Vits on the other hand was more exciting but has an extremely overrated career. Anyone who doesnt see this is either a nuthugger or in denial.

At the end of the day Vits quit against Byrd and he did so while ahead. Sure we can say he was winning. He was. But injury or nor (and neither you, me or anyone else knows what was going through his mind) he quit after missing more punches than he ever had before or since and failing to hurt a much smaller fighter who took the fight on ten days notice. This is not spinning anything, these are facts. So if you want to call me a hater because you dont like the facts than so be it. But dont cry because i keep it real.

 

How big of a difference do you see in these stoppage wins over the same man?

So? That hardly deserves a "Fat" description. Wlad was just at his career heaviest by a few pounds for Thompson, would you say he was fat?

I wouldn't compare a healthy looking man coming at 4 lbs over his previous career heaviest to a man who dropped 17 lbs in 3 months and looked sickly. Why would you do that?