Klitschko & Haye Double Standards, Why?

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by Fan2010, Dec 17, 2009.


  1. Spud565

    Spud565 Active Member Full Member

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    I agree, there is double standards. When Wlad bored MSG to sleep in his fight with Ibragimov the Klit fans were screaming a masterful performance, did what he needed to win, winning is all that matters. When Haye does what he has to win against Valuev it is boing and a disgrace. These are double standards.
    What makes it worse, and why I defend Haye, is that Klit outweighed, outsized and outreached his opponent and still bored everyone to tears. Haye was outweighed massively, outsized massively and outreached massively, and was still MUCH more agressive than Wlad every was in his fight against Ibragimov. When HAye outsizes and outwieghs his opponents he blasts them out in a few rounds, Wlad does not!
    To me both of these fights were terrible, but if you insult Haye for being in a boring fight, and defend Wlad in the Ibragimov fight you need your head exmining, and need to be banned from ESB for your blatant bias.
     
  2. time

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    The large brothers are not the most exciting to watch in the world, but i thought the lewis v vitali fight was great so basically if someone would fight them it could be good. As for haye, i doubt he can beat either brother but it should be fun seeing him try
     
  3. dhralf

    dhralf **** the queen! Full Member

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  4. RDJ

    RDJ Boxing Junkie banned

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    No. The reason I said not this **** again is because you insinuated I expected Haye to stand and trade. As if there's nothing between doing a Rocky and running.
     
  5. RDJ

    RDJ Boxing Junkie banned

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    Who exactly is defending Wlad for the Ibragimov fight? It was a stinker.
     
  6. RDJ

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    And again, someone who thinks it's either running or trading. The thing in between is what we call boxing, look it up someday.
     
  7. MickeyBlueEyess

    MickeyBlueEyess Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I think you should stop posting in this thread, your making a right plum out of yourself :hi:
     
  8. Spud565

    Spud565 Active Member Full Member

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    Klit fans are always defending that performance, you may not be one of them. However, I am sure you have defended one of the Klit brothers when they are criticised for jabbing an opponent to death before they actually decide to throw a right hand. Look at Rahman/Klit. Rahman was there to be taken from the opening bell, but Wlad jabbed him to death before he even consided throwing a meaningful shot. Did you defend these? If you did you are partaking in the double standards. Again I'll say it, he outweighed, outreached Rahman but still decided to go for the saftery first appraoch like Haye in Valuev. If Haye outsized Valuev like Wlad did in the Rahman and Chagaev fights or like Vitali did in Johnson fights he would have tried to get them out there early. Not jabbed them to death. However, Klit fans defend these perfomances using Johnson neagtivety as an excuse and Wlads weak chin needing protecting in his fights, and yet criticise Haye from fighing boring in one of his fights when he was dwarfed by his opponent.
     
  9. RDJ

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    Hmmmm. What shall I do? Run and hide like a homo, or stand and trade? We all know there's nothing in between :think

    You're an idiot if you keep repeating the "do you expect him to stand and trade" line, because I've stated about a hundred times that that is not what I expected. I expected a fight though.
     
  10. Babality

    Babality KTFO!!!!!!! Full Member

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    You answered your own question. You've only seen Haye fight ONCE, against a 7'2 300+ giant. He never fights like that. I respect the Klitschkos but Haye is more exciting by far.
     
  11. MickeyBlueEyess

    MickeyBlueEyess Boxing Addict Full Member

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    You're an idiot if you ignore the broken hand might have had an effect on the amount of right hands he limited himself to. Also ignoring the fact he is what Klit fans call a blown up cruiserweight fighting the biggest, heaviest Champion in history.

    He did enough to win clearly and im not bothered about him having one boring fight. Its what Wlad acheives almost every fight.
     
  12. john b

    john b EVERTON 0- OLdham 1 Full Member

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    Haye might have ran but he still rocked Valuev with a left which wasn't his best punch. If u want to see an exciting haye fight were he shows all his array of punches and why people pay to see him monte barrett, mocormeck and macranelli while he was at cruiserweight. After 22 fights he as Knocked out twenty of them not a boring fighter really.
     
  13. RDJ

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    I guess he broke his left hand as well because he didn't throw that either until the twelfth round when he magically unbroke both hands and punched again.

    They could have skipped the first eleven rounds and made it a one rounder, it would have been essentially the same fight. Haye wins because of one single good punch in round 12.
     
  14. Cobbler

    Cobbler Shoemaker To The Stars Full Member

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    Haye outlanded Valuev in the majority of rounds with better, harder and more accurate punches.
     
  15. MickeyBlueEyess

    MickeyBlueEyess Boxing Addict Full Member

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    If you dont think Haye was ahead before the 12th round then your boxing knowledge is pretty lacking.