klitschko popularity...

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  1. exumspate

    exumspate Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I've read all the crap about them not being American or not being exciting, as the cause(s) of their lack of popularity...Plenty of other theories are debated too, and maybe there is some truth to many of them as contributing factors..But, the answer would seem to be much simpler to me...

    Ali was the unified hw champ, very popular...Larry Holmes was the wbc champ, not popular, the forgotten champ...Mike Tyson unified the championship again, very popular...Evander Holyfield was unified champ, very popular...Riddick Bowe was fairly popular as the unified champ but then trashed a belt, soon forgotten...Lennox Lewis suffered some of the same lack of popularity as the Klits until he beat Evander, he was popular as the man after that...

    I think the moral of the story is; if you have to explain sanctioning bodies to explain why there is more than one hw champ, the general public tunes out...I can't think of any hw champ that became a household name that wasn't the unified champ at least at some point in their career...I don't think the general public understands more than one hw champion, they want to see the 'baddest MAN on the planet'...

    The other factor that prevents their popularity from rising is they both were beaten by the last era of popular fighters...Wlad was getting hyped big time in the US media before he got bombed out by Sanders, and then his next ko loss all but sealed the deal...Vitali was never hyped until his fight with Lewis, he can partially thank Byrd for some of that though...And then he lost to Lewis, the unified champ...He still was moving up though and then retired...

    And now, because they refuse to fight eachother, neither will ever become the unified champ unless the other retires and even then, it's still not a guarantee...There are no former unified champs out there (Holyfield isn't Holyfield anymore), they have never beaten the household names, only lost...To the general public, the Klits have reigned over a bunch of nobodies, no one good enough to become THE hw champ, fair or not...

    So we have 3 hw champs right now and some are confused as to why two of them who won't fight eachother aren't more popular...Call me crazy but, I don't think them not being American is root of this issue...
     
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  2. PetethePrince

    PetethePrince Slick & Redheaded Full Member

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    Personally, I dislike them because I'm a self-loathing white man and hate to see any white athlete garner success. I don't know how others see it, but that's just me.
     
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  3. exumspate

    exumspate Well-Known Member Full Member

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    You must be a Hopkins fan...
     
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  4. Threetime no1

    Threetime no1 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Good post. I think you've gotta point with the unified thing. Has i stated in the other thread i don't think it's because they aren't American either. I think they've both had they're chances and blew it. Vitali by retiring when he did, which was not his fault. Wladimir through his boring style, culminating in his heavily hyped fight with Ibragimov, which turned out to be dreadful.
     
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  5. Ukansodoff

    Ukansodoff Deontay plz stop ducking Joshua. Thank you. Full Member

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    Never had a problem with the Klitchkos, they are boring but only cuz they choose safety 1st attitude and nobody in the division is good enough to push them and force them into exciting fights.

    Dont blame them blame the lack of competition in the division. We need boxers coming through that can push them and who are able to maybe cement their own game plan on
    Vlad and Vitali instead of them easily dominating for a change.
     
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  6. Exactabox

    Exactabox Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    :rofl:rofl:rofl
     
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  7. exumspate

    exumspate Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Part of the problem with more than one champ, the pool of contenders gets cut in half by having just two champs...With 3 champs, each has 1/3 of what a unified champ would normally have to choose from or contend with...
     
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  8. Wilox

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    Taking all this into account, and I think you make a good point, how do you think Haye will be viewed outside the UK if he beats Wlad?
     
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  9. Shmoopy

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    u must be a Limey :yep
     
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  10. The Spider

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    There's no doubt if they were Americans they'd be more popular, particularly in the States of course.
     
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  11. Farmboxer

    Farmboxer VIP Member Full Member

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    They are the best heavyweights in the world today and I think they are exciting, with skills, always in conditiion, knockout ratios are fantastic, esp. Vitali's!!!!!!!
     
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  12. exumspate

    exumspate Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Good question...He would be big but, a whole lot bigger if he beat both and unified the belts...I don't think he will though...
     
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  13. The Spider

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    They are the best heavyweights in the world without doubt, and yes highly skilled too. But exciting is about the last word I'd use to describe them.
     
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  14. Relentless

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    its a shame vecarrow's brilliant thread on wlads popularity got deleted, it would have shut all your cocksuckers up.
     
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  15. Loufatski

    Loufatski Boxing Junkie banned

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    VK was and possibly still is the more dangerous and more durable man, and more exciting.
     
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