Klitschko should have been disqualified against Povetkin?

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  1. Jennifer Love Hewitt

    Jennifer Love Hewitt Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Wlad probably should have been warned for holding in just about all of his fights. He went in there with the intention of holding. It was his strategy.

    But if the ref won't enforce the rules, you can't blame the fighter. If refs warned Wlad, deducted points, etc. he would have been forced to throw more punches, and despite his love of holding, he was great at throwing punches.
     
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  2. Dance84

    Dance84 Unicorn and seastar land Full Member

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    Cheers mate then im talking to the klitschko nut huggers and mayweather gobblers
     
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  3. dinovelvet

    dinovelvet Antifanboi Full Member

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    Lol.. Calm down Karen.
     
  4. Mendoza

    Mendoza Hrgovic = Next Heavyweight champion of the world. banned Full Member

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    Wlad won easy.
    • Judge: [url]Philippe Verbeke[/url] 119-104
    • Judge: [url]Glenn Feldman[/url] 119-104
    • Judge: [url]Ted Gimza[/url] 119-104

    Its very rare to see a 104 on any score card after 12 rounds.

    Klitschko landed 139 of 417 total punches (33%) and Povetkin connected on 59 of 283 (21%). Klitschko landed 52 of 152 power shots (34%) compared to 35 of 172 (20%) for Povetkin

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    ^^^ There you have it Povektin said Was was the better fighter.
     
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  5. dinovelvet

    dinovelvet Antifanboi Full Member

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    But if it was his strategy as you said , then of course you can blame him. Blame the guy cheating first , blame the guy allowing it second.
     
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  6. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    I think you are missing the point. I've already spelt it out pretty carefully but I'll try again.

    1) If Wlad is warned by the referee repeatedly about holding he will a) stop holding or b) be disqualified.

    2) If b) you get what you want. If a) you get what you want.

    3) That never happened. It reached a point so late in the fight where it mattered that it didn't matter.

    4) NO FIGHTER goes "it's against the rule for me to hold/push with the head/maul/rabbit punch therefore i will never do it". EVERY FIGHTER deploys his offence/defence according to the governance in the ring.

    5) There are exceptions to the above

    6) Wladimir is not one of them

    7) What is it you want now?
     
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  7. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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    Had it happened back then, it wouldn't have been wrong. That it didn't, is fine.

    This is why, for grey area situations like this, we have the phrase "referee's discretion".
     
  8. Saintpat

    Saintpat Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Some people really don’t know what’s right in front of their eyes.

    First off, I’m not a Wlad fan because he’s ridiculously boring. But in this case Povetkin initiated basically every clinch:

    In just the first minute of this video we see Povetkin using the same tactics over and over:

    1) He rushes in, puts his head down and extends his left arm under Wlad’s armpit, against his side. THAT is a clinch. The only way Wlad can avoid a clinch there is to throw his right hand straight up, which a boxer is not required to do ... Povetkin basically throws the left under Wlad’s arm, hooks it around his side to hold and it gets trapped because it’s not Wlad’s job to position his right arm away from his body in some ridiculously awkward position to accommodate his opponent.

    2) Povetkin rushes in and actually moves his head to his left and under Wlad’s right armpit. That’s not the position of a man trying to fight, it’s one who wants to initiate a clinch. What is Wlad supposed to do here with the guy’s head resting under his armpit to avoid a clinch, lol?

    Let me tell you what you don’t see in these ‘highlights’ or basically anywhere else in the fight if you watch the whole thing: Povetkin punching when he gets close. He just doesn’t. Why, if you’re trying to win the heavyweight championship of the world, would you not punch when you get close if you’re the shorter man.

    And don’t bend over from the waist so you’re not in punching position. Bend your knees. It’s not rocket science but it’s boxing basics.

    Also notice how many ties Povetkin wraps his left hand around behind Wlad’s neck. This isn’t Wlad clinching, it’s Povetkin.

    If he throws left hooks instead of extending his left arm straight out under Wlad’s armpit, there’s no clinch — we’d get an exchange. And exactly what can he throw when he sticks his head under his opponent’s armpit?

    Povetkin just wanted to survive. He’s responsible for probably 90 percent of the clinches in a clinch-filled fight.

    Povetkin is the one who should have been warned by the referee every time he extended his arm or put his head under Wlad’s armpit. And eventually DQ’d.
     
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  9. Liquorice

    Liquorice Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    Ward should have been DQd v Kessler, Salido shudda been DQd v Loma & Ali DQd v Frazier.. Hell even Bhop v Calzaghe for all his obvious stalling nonsense

    But **** happens..
     
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  10. dinovelvet

    dinovelvet Antifanboi Full Member

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    Explain what you see here

    [url]https://cdn3.vox-cdn.com/imported_assets/2167547/blanket.gif[/url]

    There are two clinches in that gif.. One shows Povetkin dipping under a left hook before being grabbed. The second shows Klitschko lunge in from mid range to initiate a bear hug.

    Both times Povetkin has a high guard. Both times it is Wlad that is using his upper body to tuk Povetkins head under his armpit. This happened all throughout the fight. It was the same pattern over and over.

    Wladimir Klitschko Wins Ugly Unanimous Decision over Povetkin to Retain Title

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  11. Richmondpete

    Richmondpete Real fighters do road work Full Member

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    Your blaming America for wlads boring reign as a champion? I think I've heard it all now
     
  12. Richmondpete

    Richmondpete Real fighters do road work Full Member

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    Never once heard any unbiased person complain about Ali vs Frazier
     
  13. lufcrazy

    lufcrazy requiescat in pace Full Member

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    The only real thing I disagree with here is the use of the word highlights.
     
  14. ZablieJudahnoff

    ZablieJudahnoff Charleston White 2024 Full Member

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    Mind your manners,adjust your tone. You don't speak to your betters like this,angry boy.
     
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  15. MorvidusStyle

    MorvidusStyle Boxing Addict Full Member

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    The mysterious technique known as the Flying Klinchkopus was properly battle tested that night. Developed in secret for years in those midnight sauna sessions where Wlad would seek to grope any sweaty body he could before they might escape his notorious Austrian training villa, leaping from the shadows on inexperienced male prey before entangling them in his liberal tentacles. ''Don't fight it,'' he would whisper to them. ''My clinch will only become stronger, tighter, firmer ...'' Sometimes they would lash out with resistant, hateful words. ''I will not tolerate homophobia here,'' Wlad would croon, grasping his victim all over. ''This is a place of tolerance and progress. I shall now educate you in the ways of New Ukraine and make you a better man as I did Flashy Flash Haye.''

    And so Wlad honed his technique, leaping and grasping, leaping and groping, until he always caught his man ... even multiple men at once. When Vitali walked in and found Wlad clinching three naked servants and a farmhand in those pulsing arms, he new it was time for Team Klitschko to implement this new weapon on the big stage.

    Povetkin had no way to train for such an attack, familiar only with clinching at close range ... and boxing. But to his horror he discovered that the Flying Klinchkopus could be launched from outside of his own punching range! Now Wladimir could clinch from the inside and the outside. From anywhere and at anytime. There was nothing to be done. Just like those victims in the Austrian villa, Povetkin never saw it coming and never had a chance.
     
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