Klitschko vs Stiverne - lets make undisputed/lineal official

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by chap69, Nov 18, 2014.


  1. chap69

    chap69 Banned Twice - Innocent Full Member

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    Who are the Ring magazine to decide that Wladimir is the lineal champ it's not their call and never will be, there's only one fight out there to make it happen and that's against Stiverne, I've always been critical of both Klitschkos (good lads but fan base something else) however I think Wladimir deserves to fight for the undisputed title and finally put a rubber stamp on this lineal issue and yes we can go through the history books with Gene Tunney etc but the last undisputed champ was Lennox Lewis and is still classed as lineal so as a boxing fan I hope this fight can be made and it should be made !
     
  2. madballster

    madballster Loyal Member Full Member

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    Wlad is already universally recognized as lineal HW champ. He is lineal champ since beating Potevkin. Stiverne has NOTHING to do with lineal championship.
     
  3. HerolGee

    HerolGee Loyal Member banned Full Member

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    wlad is already lineal from age of 37. he is one who took the longest to achieve the feat.

    just disputed.


    lewis did it 14 years younger, in fact lewis had grown bored of benig lineal by 37. wlad is 14 years behind lennox.
     
  4. Console Command

    Console Command Well-Known Member Full Member

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    stiverne doesn't even deserve a title...
     
  5. Robney

    Robney ᴻᴼ ᴸᴼᴻᴳᴲᴿ ᴲ۷ᴵᴸ Full Member

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    Most people did already recognize Wlad as lineal since the Chagaev fight, but after Povetkin there was no way around it at all anymore.

    Stiverne is just a beltholder and nothing more
     
  6. Robney

    Robney ᴻᴼ ᴸᴼᴻᴳᴲᴿ ᴲ۷ᴵᴸ Full Member

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    Tyson even managed to be 'undisputed' for a while without being the lineal champ.
    Just to show how weird, arbitrary and subjective it all has become since we had more as one belt.
     
  7. HerolGee

    HerolGee Loyal Member banned Full Member

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    true, no one should be claiming arreola is world level opposition.
     
  8. Peppermint

    Peppermint Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Wlad is THE Heavyweight champion of the world. Undisputed. The WBC can do whatever they want. They can have 5 heavyweight champions if they choose, but the WBC heavyweight title is like the WBU title at that weight.
     
  9. chap69

    chap69 Banned Twice - Innocent Full Member

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    I think some of you have got the wrong end of the stick with this one im not anti-Wlad on this, Klitschko is not universally recognised as lineal or undisputed (yes it's subjective) however he is recognised as the best heavyweight without question it's a no brainer but as it stands we have an opportunity for an official undisputed heavyweight champion of the world and we haven't had one since Lennox Lewis and to me that's a no brainer too !
     
  10. Matt in a hat

    Matt in a hat Well-Known Member Full Member

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    The wbc HW belt is a lesser belt atm. Undisputed just means there is no public dispute as to who is the best, and most accomplished.
    Wlad obviously does not need to fight anyone to be undisputed.
    It's the other way round.

    There was dispute when Vitali was champ, but that immediately disappeared once he retired.
    The wbc belt is a 3rd or 4rth place award right now, lol.