Klitschko's Knockout Power (vs. Iron Mike)

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  1. acb

    acb De Camaguey... Gavilan Full Member

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    TYSON!

    Tyson had double fisted power and his punches had power from all angles. Vlad has a great right hand and left hook, but he has to really set it up. Tyson could launch from anywhere and finish his man. Body, head, all levels he could execute.
     
  2. andyZOR

    andyZOR Obsessed with Boxing banned

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    Agreed. :D
     
  3. Mark D.

    Mark D. EPA Full Member

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    I agree.
     
  4. brooklyn1550

    brooklyn1550 Roberto Duran Full Member

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    Nah
     
  5. Heavyrighthand

    Heavyrighthand Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I think Tyson was so effective, not only for his ferocious, raw power, but for his fast hands, and great ability to deliver that power.

    If you compare just pure, raw punching power, someone like, say, Vinnie Maddelone (just an example, nothing more) may have as much pure, raw punching power as Tyson, but he couldn't deliver it as Tyson could, so therefore, he's not perceived to be nearly as powerful as Tyson was.

    But skill and deliverability aside, there were probably many heavies who had power equal with Tyson. But they couldn't deliver the bomb, as Tyson could.
     
  6. guillermojm

    guillermojm Member Full Member

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    i think tyson would have wiped the floor with all the current champs.....

    i have never seen anyone but tyson lift a guy straight up off the floor with an upercut
     
  7. hobgoblin

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    point taken but don't forget george foreman against joe fraizer.
     
  8. guillermojm

    guillermojm Member Full Member

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    your right foreman did hit like a freaking mule!!!!! would have been a great fight to see them both go at it
     
  9. boxingcar

    boxingcar Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Tyson couldn't beat McBride (bum)
    Tyson couldn't beat Douglas (nothing special by today's standards)
    Tyson couldn't beat Lennox
    Tyson got clearly outboxed by Botha for 5 total rounds

    Prime Tyson couldn't KO Tillis (a bum by today's standards)
    Prime Tyson couldn't KO Green (see above)
    Prime Tyson couldn't KO Smith either (C level at best)
    Prime Tyson lost against douglas (legit loss)

    Tyson used to look scary and always used to do a tremendous job at beating cans. Whenever a fighter wasn't scared of him...He'd get super frustrated...(see his fight vs Holyfield for a classical example or against Douglas).

    Tyson is like a religion. And everyone ate it up. the media did a fantastic job. Still to this day...everyone is going ape **** about his "power".
    (even though Guys like Sam Peter , Tua , Foreman , Shavers were all more powerful).

    He's been called champion of the world and yet most of his competition was 90 or 95% vs US fighters. (once again , the media did a fantastic job , Tyson is probably one of the most hyped fighter in boxing history).

    A demi god to his fans.
    And yes , Tyson was a tremendous athlete...
    Only His competition wasn't good at all...he was fighting in a shitty era too. But no one talks about this cause He was american.

    and people are all clearly pro american and the reason why the HW division is not as huge as it used to be is because americans are not dominating anymore.
    The problem is that today's division is finally...international. (unlike in the mid 90's , 80's , 70's , 60's , 50's etc....)

    Tyson was a fantastic fighter. But he still was human.
     
  10. Boxfan1

    Boxfan1 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    It's a height matter really. Tyson was short, so he threw a short man's punches. Short hooks, and uppercuts. Tyson rarely threw straight punches, and when he did, they were not of KO power. Wlad is a tall and large man. He can't get in your chest or throw short hooks to the liver, chin and ears like Tyson could because of the space required to do so. However, Wlads straight punches (jab and right cross) are the hardest since Lennox and Larry Holmes. Different punches from different people. Now, if you want to compare left hooks, I'd say that they are about equal in power delivered, but again keep in mind Tyson would throw his while literally in the chest of his opponents, and Wlad throws his from a relatively long distance.
     
  11. Stimulant

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    Ummmm..
     
  12. oblate

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    guess that means buster douglas would beat all the champs with one arm then :lol:
     
  13. hobgoblin

    hobgoblin Active Member Full Member

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    :patsch

    wlad fans just need to get past the delusional phase. forget tyson, there are guys saying how wlad would beat ali & foreman. 15 years later you'll realize what wlad really was. i had a similar case with mike tyson - now i see him in more objective light. he may not be ali or marciano - but he was a hell of a lot better than wladdy. better puncher too - look at the rankings

    i define KO power as something that will KO a typical fighter (not some granite chinned freak like evander holyfield or vitali). with this measure, tyson landed KO shots on...

    1. watch first round of holy tyson 1. LOTS of STRAIGHT BOMBS. Hell, just watch first 5 seconds. decaptitate wlad!
    2. tyson v holmes (again, holmes had a good chin).
    3. tyson vs botha
    4. tyson v spinks (finishing blow was a straight right)
    5. tyson v jack johnson (straight right)
    6. tyson v golota (KD blow was a straight right - damaged golota's cheek bone, vertebrae in spine, golota had to leave the fight for medical reasons).

    what in hel are you talking about?
     
  14. Boxfan1

    Boxfan1 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    What the hell are you talking about? I'm looking at both men objectively. Tyson rarely threw straight punches. Go back and look at his fights and ko's. He would attack the body with nasty hooks to the hips and liver then combo his way upstairs until he could get his opponents with his coup de grace combo. The left uppercut followed by the right hook or visa versa. Tyson loved that combo and used it frequently. As for my description of Wlads punching style, I dare you to prove me wrong on my analysis.
     
  15. hobgoblin

    hobgoblin Active Member Full Member

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    buster douglas was actually the UNDISPUTED HW CHAMPION of the world. not something wlad can say. douglas actually beat a A grade puncher / fighter in Mike Tyson - who did Wlad ever beat?