Klitschko's legacy as a champ. If he keeps winning, I'll tell you how I rate him.

First, I use a model that has only room for one champ (as difficult as this is today). Thus, I refer to Wlad.

He is a great champion. I am sorry if that word offends the fragile amongst you, but talent wise, keep it real. Is he great in the historical sense? I think not because of one problem.

His brother Vitali.

The Klits come as a package, and this has positives and negatives. The positives include novelty and marketability. The only real negative, albeit ****ing massive, is that they wish to share the title. Of course, they do not see it as a problem, but in the "one true champ model" it is.

I don't care that they do not fight. The fight would suck. It would be meaningless. This means though that Wlad cannot fight the man who would very likely have given him his greatest challenge.

As for the small matter of the rest of his career? Props for revenge against Brewster. Brewster may not have been at his best but in boxing this is the norm. Wlad was not at his best in their first match. He got iced by Sanders and Purity (I don’t give a **** that he gassed because this is boxing). I count these, don’t worry.

His opponents are not big personalities but in terms of ring skill he makes them look bad. It makes little sense to imagine that all fighters in the division suck to the point of not being able to get a round off klit, rather than Klit being that ****ing good. Oh, Wlad is that ****ing good. A solid 6'6 athlete with supreme athletic ability and the boxing ability to utilize such athletic gifts is going to be up there if he can fulfil his potential. Wlad still has time to go, but he is walking the walk. It aint the height or the reach or the jab or the right or the power. It is everything put together: the ability to box.

Where does he rank then? No clue. Matter of taste and most people don't rate substance over style. Just a pity he did not have a guy as good as Vitali as a challenger. If Vitali was his friend and not his brother and he beat him, I’d freely talk about The Great Wlad Klitschko.

It would make many pussies bleed, but what you gonna do?

 

One is already bleeding, and it is a regular captain ****wit.

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You are one of the greats here dawg, and thanks for the input.

 

Damn, usually my threads are at the 5 page mark by now.

Is it too long?

 

I can't rate Vitali above Wlad in any sense. A part of me would like to, but Wlad has proved himself at the highest level more than VK.

VK may have beaten Wlad, but it is unproven so I can't use it.

 

I agree but I think that his legacy would have been so much better had he had an opponent as good as VK. He will go down as not fighting the best available, which is unfortunate.

 

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Woah!

Stop the presses.

What does this have to do with it?

Tyson and Foreman had a power advantage.

Ali had speed advantage and a height advantage over most.

Lewis had a height advantage.

Holyfield had the ability to come back strong after massive punishment.

Holy had reach and height over Tyson

McCall had an iron chin.

etc.

Why are we taking points away from Wlad for being big? This is the heavyweight division.

Just what are the rules?