Klitschkos vs a prime mike tyson

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by greatone, May 31, 2010.


  1. greatone

    greatone Active Member Full Member

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    First of all, let me give the Klits thier due respect. Who is the last heavyweight champ to dominate a (weak though) division and fight damn near everyone that is out there or at least try to fight those that are willing? Now, onto the flipside, I don't think the brothers are master boxers but masters of using their physical advantages. Would they dominate if they were about 6'2"-6'3" 220-230 like most of their opponents? Now onto my original point! With tysons physical disadvantages (7-8 inches shorter and 8-9 inches shorter reach) would he constantly run into well timed jabs and hooks when closing the distance? Or would he have the great head movement (which he did) ,speed and explosiveness to get them out of there? Also keep in mind if the Klits power would where down Iron Mike. What to you think?
     
  2. HEADBANGER

    HEADBANGER TEAM ELITE GENERAL Full Member

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    tyson ko vlad rd3
    vitali ko tyson rd11
     
  3. Jazzo

    Jazzo Non-Facebook Fag Full Member

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    Vitali had the potential to beat him if he fought a smart fight, but he would get too caught up in the trading.

    This version of Wlad is immense, and he too might be able to frustrate Mike.

    I'm going to go for a controversial stance:

    I don't know who would win.
     
  4. Jazzo

    Jazzo Non-Facebook Fag Full Member

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    One thing though:

    Let us not pretend that Tyson KOED everyone.

    He simply did not.

    Sometimes against small fighters who he had knocked down several times, he relied on the ref to stop it.

    Tyson was an effective puncher.

    But power alone can't beat Wlad.

    It couldn't beat McBride.
     
  5. BodyBlaster

    BodyBlaster Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Tyson beats them both easily at his best.
    Tyson would have Wlad outta there quickly, and possessed far too much quickness for Vitali, who being tougher would have lasted longer, possibly even hearing the final bell.
    Tyson beats them both comfortably.
     
  6. PH|LLA

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    I think Tyson beats Wlad by early KO, but Vitali stops Tyson late.
     
  7. TommyV

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    Jazzo. :-(
     
  8. greatone

    greatone Active Member Full Member

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    Tyson had speed, athleticism, head movement and devastating power. I think those are proper ingredients to beat wlad.
     
  9. golden boxer

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    tyson kos wlad he loses to vitali
     
  10. Jazzo

    Jazzo Non-Facebook Fag Full Member

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    I am pointing out that power is that last thing to go.

    And was it enough to beat McBride.

    What about glass jawed Williams?

    I'm in sensible mode today.

    Besides, I would not necessarily bet against Tyson.
     
  11. Jazzo

    Jazzo Non-Facebook Fag Full Member

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    Maybe.
     
  12. TommyV

    TommyV Loyal Member banned

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    I take it these are based on the 'Vitali can take a punch and handle pressure, Wlad can't basis'?

    Wlad is far more skilled, he may get blown-out early, he may frustrate Tyson for long periods if he can stick and move and time Tyson in the clinch, although I think Mike would get to him mid-rounds primed.

    Nobody is going to take any amount of huge punches from Tyson. Anyone that allowed Tyson to land those vicious combinations folded. Vitali hasn't faced anyway with the level of upper body and head movement of Tyson, nor as quick.

    Vitali's survival tactics are also questionable. Look at the weigh he was holding onto Lewis desperately after that massive uppercut, look at the way he ran, yes, ran from Sanders when he got hard by that straight left.
     
  13. Kush

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    mike ko 1 wlad
    mike ko 2 vitali
     
  14. TommyV

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    He wouldn't just rely on power 'alone' to win these fights. If you were in a sensible mode Jazzo, you would recognise that much of Tyson's power came from the speed and leverage he gained on punches that he lost at old age.

    You would recognise that he normally flattened most guys through combination punching, not from single punches - although obviously there were cases. He was practically loading on his punches by 1990 and not putting his combinations together as often or anywhere near as fluently.

    He was far better technically than a traditional swarmer may be given credit for. He could be patient when needed and find gaps rather than truely swarm and overwhelm a guy. He threw his punches properly, defensively he was very hard to tag clean in his prime, he even had a pretty decent jab, he was just very rarely afforded the luxury of jabbing with a guy, and when he was in range, he didn't need to jab.
     
  15. chico g

    chico g Let's watch some Sesame Street...lmao Full Member

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    Tyson would lose against both brother's i reckon. He could get lucky Wlad, but it would have to be a early stoppage scenario...