Ko punching power: Natural or...........

Discussion in 'Boxing Training' started by dempsey1234, Dec 11, 2012.


  1. viru§™

    viru§™ Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I'm not attacking you, it was actually a serious question, just with an emotion at the end. Way to go ignoring it.

    You asked if KO power can be developed. Scrap, the most knowledgeable guy on this forum, says it can be. Debate him with your superior knowledge in this area, you may as well seeing as you're already mocking him. Clearly you know better.

    Please explain the significance of the oral cavity when it comes to punching power, or do you have absolutely no idea what he's referring to?
     
  2. dempsey1234

    dempsey1234 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    "Max Power comes from the position, of the Oral Cavity. If thats not correct nothing is to Maximize Delivery. Its a Skill Set."

    If scrap is what you say he is, then what does that statement have to do with this thread????

    So you yappers do respect somebody, it's good to know, but little dogs keep yapping, so keep yapping.

    Explain through modern science and technologoical advances, what scrap and the rest of the yap pack are trying to say about this specific topic?

    You can dish it out but you just cant take it, and you hide behind the oscillation of the framus which then leads to gluteal strain, which leads to anal leakage, which then leads to anal stains, or racing stripes in your under garments. Then through the use of modern science and technological advances in detergents, you can almost get the stains out of your undergarments.
    :hi:

    I love my coffee breaks, you guys are a trip.

     
  3. greynotsoold

    greynotsoold Boxing Addict

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    If you took a look at what Emmanuel Steward changed in Tommy Hearns, in the way he delivered his right hand, that made him into a "ko puncher", then that statement would make perfect sense.
     
  4. viru§™

    viru§™ Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I'm being serious, not taking the **** or insulting you yet you still avoid the question.

    You're out of your depth. What you've said so far shows how little understanding you have of human physiology.

    If you can't answer the question just say so and move on.
     
  5. dempsey1234

    dempsey1234 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Since you are one of my avid readers, I will reply, what did that statement have to do with this topic? Nada, zlich, nothing.

    Did you run to scrap, oooooh, scrap, Dempsey, is mocking, you, oooo! Simply schoolyard.

    A serious question, you know what they say, if it smells like a fart, it is a fart:fart

    I await your skillful and insightful reply. Sarcasem works both ways through modern science and tecnological advances.

    The clock is still ticking, name one punchless fighter, that has become a ko puncher through the use of modern technological advances, tick, tick tick
     
  6. viru§™

    viru§™ Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    You carry on, I'm not the one making myself look pathetic and immature.

    Have a nice day, mate. :good
     
  7. dempsey1234

    dempsey1234 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Oh, jeez I know what you want, cartoon time, here 'tis
    :yikes:hammertime:bananamaniac:dunnowha::shake:ass:hi:
     
  8. CHAL_DIESEL

    CHAL_DIESEL GOAT Full Member

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    I am not sure what you guys are arguing about(seems like it is an unrelated beef to the topic), but I have seen guys who went not knowing how to throw a punch, to learning proper technique, and turning into a power puncher. For some individuals, they have a natural ko punch, but at the same time I believe it can be taught, and power can be increased.
     
  9. dempsey1234

    dempsey1234 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Iwill, thank you. Then why are you following me around, if I am the one looking pathetic and immature, hmmmmm!

    When are YOU, going to answer the question? I want to hear what you have to say about this topic, stay on task, I know with your superior intellect you will provide insightful comments that someone can agree or disagree with.

    Tick, tick, tick
     
  10. dealt_with

    dealt_with Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    To be fair Scrap is calling it the oral cavity when he should be saying vestibular system, the oral cavity is the vestibule of the mouth so he's got his terminology confused.
     
  11. dealt_with

    dealt_with Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    Sums it up well.
     
  12. dempsey1234

    dempsey1234 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Thank you, finally. You are correct you can increase someone's power, but if you are not a ko puncher to begin with, you are not going to become a ko artist.

    There are very good technical boxers out there who have the proper leverage and punch placement.

    Juan"Baby Bull" Diaz, was fast knew how to fight but couldnt crack an egg, he had a pretty good trainer, and a S&C guy. It really hurt him when he fought Marquez.
    If someone tells you they can increase your power, yes they can but not to the level they maybe implying.
    It is better to practice your technique's and develop your skills to win fights, rather then try to work on power. If you have a good coach he will show you to punch correctly and effectivily and through natural progression you will increase your power but not to the level where you will become a ko puncher.
     
  13. scrap

    scrap Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Oral Cavity, That which is above the Neck, if 15% off centre, the Body loses Balance. Affects Balance, proprioceptive ability, Power. Stops the body from working as it should, primary the Shoulders, lower Back, Groin, stops the Cardio System from working by up to 50% by restricting the Diaphragm. Puts Stress on the Top 6 Vertebra. For Power look at any World Class Sprinter, look where the oral cavity is positioned. Look at any World Class Fighter Puncher the Chin is in not Down. Look at any World Class Athlete.
     
  14. dempsey1234

    dempsey1234 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    If that is true, then every fighter Steward trained would have the power of Hearns, and that is not true. Since you are going back that far, Steward also trained Hilmer Kenty, Hearns and Kenty had the same trainer, the same training it didn't turn Kenty into the puncher that Hearns was.
     
  15. dealt_with

    dealt_with Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    That's all true but it's not called the oral cavity!!
    That's a big reason why Khan can't punch and gets knocked down easily, Hunter is working on his posture and balance from looking at the recent videos.