Koncz travelled to talk to Arum to make the Mayweather fight

If this were presented as an isolated scenario you may have a case but Arum has been very outspoken as of late regarding his unwillingness to take the fight. The controversial decision just so happened to present an opportunity, one that Arum was quick to jump on.

 

Pacquiao should just buy out the remainder of his contract with Top Rank if he really wants the Mayweather fight.

 

Hey look, both of these guys have 2-3 fights left. Anyone with even the most rudimentary business acumen can pretty much deduce that one of those fights will be against each other. It just so happens Pac STILL has unfinished business with JMM. You know what it is, and its understandable given the huge following for each guy---people like to call duck as part of the back and forth mudslinging. But I think anyone who sets aside thier venom for a sec and look at it more closely would've realized that it was never a question of if the fight was ever gonna happen, but rather of when it was gonna happen.

I'll tell u this much, Pac should be obligated to give JMM a 4th fight if JMM wants it.

 

Which is the main problem. Pac has fought JMM 3x already. They're not getting any younger. Arum wants them out of their prime before he's ready to make the fight (not specifically, but he wants to "use" his asset as much as he can before casting him aside, loss of prime being the resultant)

Thus, the superfight we've been waiting for is not so super anymore.

Edit: secondly, when you're as well off as Arum is, who's to say upholding a vendetta against a fighter you hate and not giving him money isn't worth more than the potential profits for yourself?

 

Someone posted earlier a fact that seems to be overlooked; Arum works for Pac....not the other way around. Put yourself in Pac's shoes with the notion that your shelf-life for million dollar paydays, in fact THE million dollar payday is now dwindling to a foreseeable end, wouldn't you want your promoter to sign the most lucrative fights? ie JMM/Floyd. And your right, that JMM fight did present another opportunity...another opportunity for a huge payday. So I wouldnt be surprised if they took a 4th fight with him next while the buzz is still strong...but is it ducking Floyd? Hardly. Trust me, I can say with almost 100 % certainty that the Floyd/Pac fight will happen next year.

And I'm well aware that Bob hates on Floyd, but at the end of the day the guy is a businessman. Didnt he and Goldenboy kiss and make up to make fights together? Money talks, bull**** walks.

 

:hey:heydeal

 

When the public demands a certain fight to be made, and the fighter opts for a second option that said public does not approve of in place of the first option, then that constitutes a duck. Business or not, the two are ducking each other every time one side presents their willingness and the other side declines. In this current case it's Team Pac.

Also I know "Arum works for Pac" but Pac is not that savvy and easily manipulated by someone of Arum's veteran experience, which is why he has Koncz to do a lot of his legal work, but sadly Koncz might just be a mole sent by Arum.

 

Thats what Im trying to tell you man. I totally agree, there is a huge "public" demand for a Floyd fight. There's also a certain "public" that clamoring for a JMM fight ...immediately. If I were Pac's business advisor, I'd be whispering in his ear ---

"hey look Pac, we have a bigger chance of losing to Floyd which would take off the luster of our next fight....lets save the floyd fight for later and take an easier fight with JMM now who we already know we can outwork and beat. In that way we're guaranteed 2 huge paydays, back to back."

The point is, if you have the opportunity to make 30mil/paydays...you'd want to extend that for as long as u can. Like I said, I feel Pac has 3 fights left, and lets say hypothetically that was the case...if so, then you'd want to take the less riskier fight first as to not jeopardize the next potentially huge payday. You want to keep that public demand high throughout yor last series of fights. In all fairness, at this point of both of thier careers most of these matchmaking are business decisions. If you look at Floyd, he really has ran out of opponents too....him calling out Pac now, thats a business decision. Coz if he fought Sergio next and lost, his negotiating power with pac will be gone and he would potentially lose millions in earnings.

 

Pac fights for the fans.. NO? :yep

 

... You're really making fun of Pacquaio though

 

I hope he's serious and not just trying to play us.

 

**** Koncz. He's a snake.

 

you're not completely wrong. However, JMM 4 would still be relevant if Pac lost to Floyd first. But if Pac were to lose to JMM in a 4th fight before fighting Floyd, the hype around a fight between the two significantly diminishes. Not to mention he loses significant negotiating leverage in a possible loss. He should just accept the controversial win as it is. People will always feel strongly one way or the other about these past 3 fights regardless of a 4th fight or not. the fact record wise he's got 2 wins keeps him in a situation where he can still argue he's Floyd's equal. A 4th can irrevocably reverse that if done before a floyd fight.

 

In this particular scenario, there's fans that wants him to fight JMM next and then there's fans that wants him to fight Floyd next. Both in high demand, which fight should he take first without jeopardizing the value of one or the other?...thats where guys like KOncz/Ellerbe/Arum comes in. But I'm sure u can give a logical answer to that yourself. Here's a hint, u should take the less riskier one first.

 

That where these guys like Koncz/Ellerbe come in. For all the negative publicity they get...they're the ones that assess the risk. And you're right, if they feel JMM is too risky a fight, then the Floyd fight is the way to go.